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Condemning Compton
« on: June 06, 2013, 12:46:39 PM »

A reply to the Compton haters in the press and elsewhere...

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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2013, 01:01:54 PM »

I agree, I think Compton should keep his place for the time being.  He has had three poor test matches after hitting hundreds in consecutive games, if this was one of the established batsmen there would be little discussion about their place.  I would love to see Jonny cement a place in the England side but I think it would be harsh to drop Compton after his winter performances.  If he fails in the first 2 or 3 games of the Ashes then he could be considered for dropping.  The worry about replacing him with Bairstow is that with the champions trophy being on we could see Bairstow carrying the drinks when we could really do with him having some time in the middle with Yorkshire
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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2013, 01:08:31 PM »

At best he will get a couple more tests before they will call time and promote Root.
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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2013, 01:08:43 PM »

Im glad someone else agrees with me. Really annoys the hell out of me when players have a bad couple of games and everyone jumps on the bandwagon, grabs the pitch forks and goes hunting! Being a somerset fan i do rate compton and think he will do very well given a chance. you have to give players a chance in the game to settle down and bed in.

2 test hundreds in not many games and some reasonable innings in india in tough conditions. couple that with wisden cricketer of the year and almost a 1000 runs before may last year. obviously makes him an average cricketer!

I thought nasser made a good point during the test series. talking about comptons 1st test 1st innings dismissal he said that if KP had done that then it would have just been 'oh its KP, it happens, big one round the corner' but because it was compton he was slated. He then went on to state thats one of his shots and he went to a 100 with it earlier in the CC. you wouldnt stop any other players playing one of their shots so why stop him!

I really hope he makes some big runs in the lead up to the ashes and piles it on during the series. Love to see the commentators with their tails between their legs! if he doesnt, englands loss is somersets gain
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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2013, 01:21:34 PM »

I agree too, class is permanent after all. He'll come good! Trying his best not to score any runs though lol. 34 from 140 odd balls lol
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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2013, 01:27:56 PM »

I agree too, class is permanent after all. He'll come good! Trying his best not to score any runs though lol. 34 from 140 odd balls lol

50 from 132. a little slow but decent
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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2013, 01:29:10 PM »

I too am a bit of a Compton fan. He hasn't done too much wrong so far has he? He's had a bad run of form in the last series but so did Ian Bell and no one questions his place. Bell goes on poor runs for months at a time and no one seems to notice! Leave Compton where he is and, just as importantly, leave Root where he is. It will all be fine!
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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2013, 01:31:03 PM »

Sorry, I am not sure I agree - Root and Bairstow add an urgency to the England batting that we need. Compton Trott and Cook up top is too staid.

Compton's technique has some marginal issues (I suspect confidence would sort them) - but KP has to be included so 4 into 3 doesn't go.

Form states Compton is the one to miss out.

Plus we also have to include the inpact of their fielding too. If I was an oppo bowler - I would Compton was playing ahead of Bairstow. And that answers the question for me.
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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2013, 01:35:05 PM »

Sorry, I am not sure I agree - Root and Bairstow add an urgency to the England batting that we need. Compton Trott and Cook up top is too staid.

Compton's technique has some marginal issues (I suspect confidence would sort them) - but KP has to be included so 4 into 3 doesn't go.

Form states Compton is the one to miss out.

Plus we also have to include the inpact of their fielding too. If I was an oppo bowler - I would Compton was playing ahead of Bairstow. And that answers the question for me.

that makes it sound like hes monty in the field. i dont think there is that big a margin when it comes to fielding that justifies him being dropped. i also thinking Bairstow is more likely to give you a chance than compton due to his style of play. theres nothing wrong with the team as it is. Bairstow hasnt exactly set the world alight in test matches. for me, he is the one that should miss out when KP comes back. Root is doing a fine job where he is, dont change that.
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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2013, 01:43:38 PM »

I think you'd be picking Bairstow over Compton based on what he 'might' do whereas Compton already has a couple of tons and 2 of his 3 tours have been very successful. He hasn't become a poor player overnight. I do think JB is very talented but I really don't think he has shown enough, quite yet, to warrant a place over NC. that may well change if he gets selected but based on the evidence we have I would stick with NC and leave JR where he is.
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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2013, 02:04:27 PM »

Compo 70* getting some much needed runs!
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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2013, 02:07:56 PM »

Bell hasn't performed in tests, how bout he gets dropped?

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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2013, 02:28:21 PM »

Bell hasn't performed in tests, how bout he gets dropped?

Why indeed? There's is no doubt his a talent but it's easier to play in a team when you know you won't get dropped at a hint of bad form. I feel for Compton, he's obviously a good player. I feel he's probably a victim of timing more than anything. He's very similar to Trott, Cook and Bell in terms of temperament. Non of these will be dropped anytime soon (rightly or wrongly) so he's the easy choice. If he had smashed his 100s then there probably wouldn't be a debate but he battled and clawed his way to a score at a time when we have those types of players already established in the top 5. I think England are in need of more dynamic modern test opener - see Dilshan, Warner, Vijay, Gayle. If he does get dropped I hope it's for this reason a not for a lack of runs (up to a point, obviously).
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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2013, 02:46:27 PM »

I agree Compton hasn't done anything wrong to get dropped, but I can't help feeling that the England selectors have got this wrong.  Last season Compton was batting middle order for Somerset so non of the pressure of opening on him, while Root was opening for Yorkshire, I really feel that they should be batting the other way round, and maybe pushing Bell to 6.

This also gives the top 3 better balance and should make Buzz happy   ;)
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Re: Condemning Compton
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2013, 03:22:17 PM »

Hundred up for Compton, will give him a nice confidence boost ahead of the ashes
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