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Re: Misleading Conduct
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2013, 09:30:47 AM »

I think it's a bit like everyone stating they make Sachins bats... Don't believe everything you hear
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Re: Misleading Conduct
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2013, 11:39:07 AM »

Well who does make as sachin' s bats?
It really should be stated by a company that the bat they sell is" based on" so and so' s bat, and not his/ her actual same bat in every way.
What would be cool is to put a test batsman's bat up against the same level bat bought in a store , and thus the comparison would be the truth !
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Re: Misleading Conduct
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2013, 11:43:49 AM »

All GM players use GM made bats dispite what anyone tells you, it may and will have happened in the past but you would be surprised with the amount of players that use stock shapes
How can you track who uses what? You can limit which stickers you give out, but nothing to stop them peeling off and going on another bat.

We've heard this before from Edward Lowy, despite there being photographic evidence at the time (Ravi Bop) that this wasn't the case.
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Re: Misleading Conduct
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2013, 11:54:13 AM »

Well who does make as sachin' s bats?
It really should be stated by a company that the bat they sell is" based on" so and so' s bat, and not his/ her actual same bat in every way.
What would be cool is to put a test batsman's bat up against the same level bat bought in a store , and thus the comparison would be the truth !

A great deal of players use an off the shelf bat, Ian Bell and Graeme Swann are two very prominent examples. Bell handpicked his Kook sticks 2 days after us last year, and in the following matches could clearly be seen using a Recoil 900 (not even the top model) before the 900 sticker was removed. Fair enough, this year he definitely isn't using a Menace, as the shape is wrong, i imagine his Recoils have been re-stickered.

Swanns GM Epic is as off the shelf as it gets.

This sort of thing happens in a number of sports. David Beckham's predators were very different to the boots millions of people purchased every season. As a goalkeeper myself at a couple of football league club academies when i was in my teens, i know for a fact that goalie gloves for pros are very different to the stuff you can buy in store.

As said above, advertising happens in all walks of life, i highly doubt Holly Willoughbooby and James Corden use a windows mobile phone.

Also, nowhere in any manufacturers catalogue does it say 'this bat is the same as player x's bat in each and every way' - they generally say 'used/endorsed by player x'

If player x is using a bat with GN Oblivion stickers on, then by definition it is an Oblivion. I think everyone realizes that Alastair Cook won't be using an Oblivion 4 star even though he endorses it. 

If someone really wants player quality wood, then it is possible to get it (or very, very, very close to it) if they are prepared to pay top whack.

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Re: Misleading Conduct
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2013, 11:59:00 AM »

Well I saw a few of Ian bells bats in a workshop this week getting prepared and they weren't kookaburra's...
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Re: Misleading Conduct
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2013, 12:28:17 PM »

my whole point is that it is misleading .It is not fair for a consumer to pay big money for a bat they think is the same as their star batsman.Lets face it when we buy a bat a lot of our choice has to do with the international player who uses a bat     
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Re: Misleading Conduct
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2013, 12:36:11 PM »

Lets face it when we buy a bat a lot of our choice has to do with the international player who uses a bat   

Exactly, I bought my first Chase because Matthew Hoggard was such an inspirational batsman, I wanted to be just like him! The fact it was my local bat maker and that I could visit the factory had nothing to do with my decision....  ;)
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Re: Misleading Conduct
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2013, 12:52:12 PM »

Well I saw a few of Ian bells bats in a workshop this week getting prepared and they weren't kookaburra's...

Players get bats from various sources. I know he got some bats from Kook last year, and they were out of the same boxes we went through to handpick our stock. Admittedly yes, that doesn't mean he gets all of them from Kook.

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Re: Misleading Conduct
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2013, 01:15:56 PM »

Exactly, I bought my first Chase because Matthew Hoggard was such an inspirational batsman......

Were you on glue?
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Re: Misleading Conduct
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2013, 02:21:57 PM »

How can you track who uses what? You can limit which stickers you give out, but nothing to stop them peeling off and going on another bat.

We've heard this before from Edward Lowy, despite there being photographic evidence at the time (Ravi Bop) that this wasn't the case.

Well its impossible to track but it is monitored in a way, we don't give out stickers so they can't put some on a different bat and are stickers won't peel off very well so easy to spot.

well I don't know with ravi as I was not their at the time but its been said a million times don't believe everything you read on here and are told as it becomes a game of Chinese whispers as I could say X player uses bats made by X bat maker then it can be misinterpreted and X bat maker could become Y bat maker
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