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Re: Moving batting onto another level
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2013, 10:48:54 AM »

I always used to think dominating the bowling was about smashing the bowlers around the park.  I've come to realise that this does not work for me, but trying to nick tight singles, whilst risky, puts them under as much if not more pressure.
A bowler will want to bowl 4/5 balls an over at the same batsman.  If you continually rotate the strike, he'll get frustrated and put under pressure because you can't be set up as easily.  A quick single is less risky than a big shot IMO.

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Re: Moving batting onto another level
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2013, 10:49:52 AM »

leg spin

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Re: Moving batting onto another level
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2013, 10:52:08 AM »

Cheers Simmy.
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Re: Moving batting onto another level
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2013, 11:00:24 AM »

I'll see if I can find Simmy's little video and take a look.

Yes, watching 2 lightening fast runners is fun as they steal singles etc BUT all too often I've noticed that a clean pick up/direct hit and they are out. Do I really have to go down the risky road to put teams under pressure? I'm more of a 'why risk it' type of batsmen but if that really is the only way then maybe it's something I should look to do later in the season.

That's mainly why I want to dominate them Buzz, once I can put them off a little or frustrate them, they start to bowl their 'wicket ball' or 'variations', which most of the time mean it's a hit-a-ble ball (or so good that I leave/block). I'm just trying to work out how I can improve. Always looking to improve if I can :)

I believe that there are very little fielders at this level that if you push the ball a yard or two either side of them and have a positive early call that can get round pick the ball up cleanly and set themselves to throw down the stumps on most occasions to run you out. I fancy my chances and if they do run you out then you have to say well fielded however I think this would happen once a season at most. I would take that one run out a season against the number of extra runs you will get. Also if a fielder has to dive realistically there is a single if you go early enough as they will have to first field it cleanly before then setting themselves to throw. So in general I think it is about needing positive early calls and trusting your partner to just put your head down and go.

Sorry if this is confusing, struggled to put my thoughts into words but just my opinion
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Re: Moving batting onto another level
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2013, 11:03:56 AM »

I believe that there are very little fielders at this level that if you push the ball a yard or two either side of them and have a positive early call that can get round pick the ball up cleanly and set themselves to throw down the stumps on most occasions to run you out. I fancy my chances and if they do run you out then you have to say well fielded however I think this would happen once a season at most. I would take that one run out a season against the number of extra runs you will get. Also if a fielder has to dive realistically there is a single if you go early enough as they will have to first field it cleanly before then setting themselves to throw. So in general I think it is about needing positive early calls and trusting your partner to just put your head down and go.

Sorry if this is confusing, struggled to put my thoughts into words but just my opinion

No, not confusing at all. I know people do just risk it but I suppose I assume the worst so don't risk it. I might try it out later in the season and see what happens. If I get run out (or nearly) a few times then I will just not do it. I know what people mean by 'positive running', just don't like taking the risks as it's easy enough as it is to gift my wicket away :(
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Re: Moving batting onto another level
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2013, 11:06:38 AM »

There will always be an element of risk whichever method you choose when looking to up the scoring rate - if there wasnt then we would all be doing it!!!  Sometimes you have to take the risk for the sake of the team...
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Re: Moving batting onto another level
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2013, 11:13:40 AM »

Even if it is close though surely if you make it then it is a good run, or at least in my eyes it is.

And just things like targeting certain fielders which you fancy to take on or not. Plus if you start running ones to fielders and such then they will be forced with the dilemma of coming in closer which may then mean that there are more opportunities to pierce the field or less risk in going up and over so a combination of good running may then limit thee risk involved of bigger shots.
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Re: Moving batting onto another level
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2013, 02:11:23 PM »

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Re: Moving batting onto another level
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2013, 08:20:48 PM »

Right. I've just spent about 3 hours netting and set up a large outer net with 'fielders' and trained just tipping and running etc. I'll try and incorporate it into my game over the season and see wht happens. See if it gets me some runs, puts the bowlers off a bit or I just plain get out. I'll try and spent 4 or 5 hours a week on drills to help with this over the next month or so and see what happens. Work on it properly over teh winter
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Re: Moving batting onto another level
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2013, 11:01:34 PM »

How many people actually look straight at fielders to see where they are , rather than looking at gaps when they go out to bat?
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Re: Moving batting onto another level
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2013, 11:44:04 PM »

How many people actually look straight at fielders to see where they are , rather than looking at gaps when they go out to bat?
Says something about your mentality that.  Looking to survive - you look where not to hit the ball (so where the fielders are), looking to be aggressive and score you look for where to hit the ball.  Small difference in semantics, but a huge difference in mentality - I always favour the latter, especially as I only tend to play limited overs cricket.
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Re: Moving batting onto another level
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2013, 11:59:23 PM »

I found the best way to increase scoring rate is to look for singles rather than boundaries,
(In every 10 balls if you get 3 singles, 3 two's and 1 four its 13 runs)
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