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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1515 on: August 21, 2013, 12:16:05 PM »



of course, but they all train non stop for most of the year and get paid plenty of money to not bowl 0-28 off 2 overs. Like I said I hope he comes back but at the moment I fear the worst.

its his first test, i think he might be nervous, understadably, and if he's bowling any bad balls, one batsmen that will really punish you is Watson, so I think he can be excused at the moment. If at the end of the days play, he's bowled 12 overs for 158, then you may have a valid point
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1516 on: August 21, 2013, 12:23:02 PM »

Lets not forget Shane Warne went 1-150 on his test debut. Certainly not saying that Kerrigan is the next Warne, but at least give him a chance
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1517 on: August 21, 2013, 12:24:37 PM »

Everyone seems quite happy to hammer two players after a combined 7 overs. Isn't the question why Watson has only just fired in a dead rubber?
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1518 on: August 21, 2013, 12:25:13 PM »

I have to say that Rogers is exactly what Australia needed in an opener. Perfect foil for Watson too

Very underrated player I think. Haven't seen much of him before but like his style.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1519 on: August 21, 2013, 12:29:39 PM »

Everyone seems quite happy to hammer two players after a combined 7 overs. Isn't the question why Watson has only just fired in a dead rubber?

Because he has faced 2 extremely ordinary bowling spells by 2 debutants
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1520 on: August 21, 2013, 12:38:42 PM »

Chris Woakes' bowling has always been cannon fodder.

He doesn't shape the ball. His short bowls are like throw downs

If England wanted to test an all round, Ben Stokes would probably been a better bet. His been bowling briskly in recent times and he can certainly bat.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1521 on: August 21, 2013, 12:41:51 PM »

Chris Woakes' bowling has always been cannon fodder.

He doesn't shape the ball. His short bowls are like throw downs


Has done the same in the few ODI's he's played . No movement and smashed around.
Giles seems to be pushing him in the team
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1522 on: August 21, 2013, 12:49:48 PM »

Has done the same in the few ODI's he's played . No movement and smashed around.
Giles seems to be pushing him in the team
I'll give Woakes that his batting is pretty good.

But you're 3rd seamer can't be just gun barrel straight.

Look at Watson, he's 80mph, but moves the ball
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1523 on: August 21, 2013, 12:52:12 PM »

Chris Woakes' bowling has always been cannon fodder.

He doesn't shape the ball. His short bowls are like throw downs

If England wanted to test an all round, Ben Stokes would probably been a better bet. His been bowling briskly in recent times and he can certainly bat.

Agree, watched him in a t20 at Northants and looked a decent prospect. Looks a well organised batsman and bowls a fairly brisk pace. Problem with Woakes, and this may apply to Stokes, is whether they can move the ball around and maintain a consistent length/line.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1524 on: August 21, 2013, 01:21:16 PM »

I'll give Woakes that his batting is pretty good.

But you're 3rd seamer can't be just gun barrel straight.

Look at Watson, he's 80mph, but moves the ball

watson's not taken many more wickets than Woakes in the first 4 tests!
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1525 on: August 21, 2013, 01:23:57 PM »

But you're 3rd seamer can't be just gun barrel straight.

Look at Watson, he's 80mph, but moves the ball

What about Bresnan then? He's hardly rapid or a huge mover of the ball.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1526 on: August 21, 2013, 01:40:19 PM »

What about Bresnan then? He's hardly rapid or a huge mover of the ball.

They regard him as someone who gets the ball to reverse, and do a bit off the seam, so not entirely convinced by your comment
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1527 on: August 21, 2013, 01:47:00 PM »

I want a call up for England then!

http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Scorecards/177/177998.html

Joking aside he is a good bowler and will come into his own. He is bound to be nervous and Watson has looked to attack him as well. 2nd innings he will get a couple!
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1528 on: August 21, 2013, 02:04:45 PM »

They regard him as someone who gets the ball to reverse, and do a bit off the seam, so not entirely convinced by your comment

Fair enough. I'm not digging at Bresnan as I like him a lot.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #1529 on: August 21, 2013, 02:08:43 PM »

Kerrigan won't bowl until Watson is out. Bet he's cursing Cook for dropping a clanger.

England are bowling with 3 bowlers at the moment. Wouldn't be surprised if Root gets some overs. Should've done the obvious thing and play Tremmers :-(
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