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Vic Nicholas

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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #240 on: July 11, 2013, 02:51:46 PM »

Is that Vic being sympathetic to the English???

He must have had sun stroke.

I am first and foremost a fair minded cricket fan.

I only responded to the "Australia will be below Bangladesh for the next 20 years" clap trap that was peddled around here a couple years ago.

I do have English players that I do want to see well. Root is one of them.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #241 on: July 11, 2013, 02:53:40 PM »

Trott has hit that. Shambles again

The Agar decision might have been a poor one, but England can't gripe about Trott.  Watching live I thought he'd got a little feather on it but the replays were pretty conclusive that it had gone straight on to pad.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #242 on: July 11, 2013, 02:55:24 PM »

Pretty sure Trott got a bit of bat on that. Why didn't they use hotspot from side on?

The snicko revealed only one sound...that of ball hitting pad.

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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #243 on: July 11, 2013, 02:57:12 PM »

The Agar decision might have been a poor one, but England can't gripe about Trott.  Watching live I thought he'd got a little feather on it but the replays were pretty conclusive that it had gone straight on to pad.
thank god some1 else sees the same as me. no bat!
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #244 on: July 11, 2013, 02:59:41 PM »

Are you lot blind? The front on replay clearly shows a deviation in the path of the ball as it passed the bat.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #245 on: July 11, 2013, 03:00:13 PM »

so none of you saw the ball deviate?
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #246 on: July 11, 2013, 03:01:35 PM »

Anyone put a bet on Australia to win this one yet - odds have got soooo much better...!
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #247 on: July 11, 2013, 03:02:11 PM »

Are you lot blind? The front on replay clearly shows a deviation in the path of the ball as it passed the bat.

it doesn't - it shows the bat hitting the foot and the relative position of the pad to the ball moving as a result.

though my nephew has just made an interesting point querying whether there was some element of umpires call to it, I would still have given it myself.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #248 on: July 11, 2013, 03:04:10 PM »

it doesn't - it shows the bat hitting the foot and the relative position of the pad to the ball moving as a result.

though my nephew has just made an interesting point querying whether there was some element of umpires call to it, I would still have given it myself.
The angle at which the ball hits the pad clearly shows that it has deviated off the bat.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #249 on: July 11, 2013, 03:05:56 PM »

The angle at which the ball hits the pad clearly shows that it has deviated off the bat.

From the hotspot they just replayed it looked like there was a mark on the side of the bat...

And the trajectory of the ball hitting the pad was not consistent with the trajectory before reaching the bat.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #250 on: July 11, 2013, 03:06:34 PM »

it doesn't - it shows the bat hitting the foot and the relative position of the pad to the ball moving as a result.

though my nephew has just made an interesting point querying whether there was some element of umpires call to it, I would still have given it myself.

the bat was a good inch or so above the foot, so he hasn't hit his foot with bat
 as has been said already, the angle of the ball changes after he's smashed the case off of it
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #251 on: July 11, 2013, 03:07:43 PM »

As the Indians have always said (and we've become used to poo-pooing) DRS is not 100%.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #252 on: July 11, 2013, 03:08:23 PM »

The snicko revealed only one sound...that of ball hitting pad.

Snicko is inconclusive, hence why it isn't used. Can't grumble what's done is done, the stumping was the biggest error as his foot was CLEARLY in the air. Nasser's point about clear evidence is spot on.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #253 on: July 11, 2013, 03:09:53 PM »

the more and more I watch it, the more the deviation becomes obvious
that combined with the Agar stumping that was turned down, not a great day for 3rd umpire Erasmus, over ruled Dar for the trot decision, but not for the stumping, when neither had conclusive evidence, no consistency
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #254 on: July 11, 2013, 03:11:22 PM »

Also snicko is done by matching sound and motion frames. Due to the time period between ball striking bat and pad, snicko would be unlikely to provide a conclusive response in this kind of situation.

It's a bad decision. They happen. I expect Trott is going to come out and score a double century in the next match, he is so miffed at that decision.
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