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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #390 on: July 12, 2013, 06:21:37 PM »

R.e. broad and holdens views.

Yes it's unsportsmanlike like and yes it's against the spirit off the game, but there is a difference.


Broad can claim he didn't feel the edge, and there is no evidence anyone can give to prove otherwise.


Ramdin dropped the ball, looked at it, then picked it up before running off to celebrate, plenty of cameras to give proof he knew he'd dropped it.

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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #391 on: July 12, 2013, 06:28:58 PM »

Broad has now shown that you can add the word "cheat" in describing him.

Aleem Dar as incompetant as ever.

Cry me a river.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #392 on: July 12, 2013, 06:41:20 PM »

And Mitchell Starc's celebration was unsportsmans like when Trott was wrongly given out.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/image/650371.html
Swings and round abouts IMO
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #393 on: July 12, 2013, 06:53:33 PM »

Aussies can lump the Broad not walking. I have never met or seen an Aussie walk .

even the revered Gilchrist found it easier to walk when he had.more than 50...
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #394 on: July 12, 2013, 06:56:22 PM »

350 I reckon England will declare on let bell get 100/150 and broad 50/100 and go from there

2 days left England are not going to declare at all.

This game still has two legs I think it open
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #395 on: July 12, 2013, 09:58:50 PM »

Aussies can lump the Broad not walking. I have never met or seen an Aussie walk .

even the revered Gilchrist found it easier to walk when he had.more than 50...

Yep was going to say "Gilchrist Walking" is a complete myth. I'd be surprised if Clarke didn't downplay it - pot, kettle, black etc.

I don't walk if I can get away with it. Smash it to slip, no chance, but I've had enough shockers and watch the oppo cheat in a similar way to know I get nothing for walking.

Let's re-cap, Broad gets a thick outside edge. Haddin, being the worst keeper/batter in test cricket bar Kamran Akmal, can't even drop it and deflects it to Clarke. Poor old ump see Haddin flap and assumes he's pushed it to slip. Haddin rubbish - yes, Clarke stupid for losing his challenges - yes and Broad a crafty git to try it on - absolutely. Australia robbed - yes, England sabotaged by the Trott fiasco - yes.

In a nutshell the officials have had a nightmare and Clarke was a bit careless.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #396 on: July 12, 2013, 10:07:59 PM »

brilliant saunders summed it up perfectly
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #397 on: July 12, 2013, 11:11:44 PM »

Pattinson is my new least favourite Australian.

He can be a mouthy little so and so when he actually gets a decent number of wickets in a game - at the moment he should just s*u and bowl.

Aye - Siddle can be a bit forward but you kinda respect the bloke - he's the kind of guy who'd happily run through a brick wall for his team  - whereas Pattinson comes across as an over promoted little jerk!
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #398 on: July 12, 2013, 11:15:15 PM »

You're right, but you'd love to think sporting integrity would come above the win-at-all-costs mentality.

Would like to think I would have walked.

Did Agar walk when he could see on the big screen at the ground that he was out stumped?

Okay, the two aren't quite the same - I've never seen an umpire miss a nick to slip's far hand before - but you'll notice that the Aussie were not even grousing about it after the day.  Them's the brokes...
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #399 on: July 12, 2013, 11:23:15 PM »

I don't walk if I can get away with it. Smash it to slip, no chance, but I've had enough shockers and watch the oppo cheat in a similar way to know I get nothing for walking.

Indeed - unless you can get absolute honesty from every single player everywhere, its hard to see why anyone would walk.  I did it in a fairly important game at Slough a few years back - had made a decent 40 at the time as well - and their skipper made a point of coming to congratulate me at tea on my honesty.  Same bloke gloved his first ball to gully and fell to the floor holding his shoulder claiming the ball had hit him there an hour later...
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #400 on: July 13, 2013, 02:40:55 AM »

Aussies can lump the Broad not walking. I have never met or seen an Aussie walk .

even the revered Gilchrist found it easier to walk when he had.more than 50...

Utter bullshit.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #401 on: July 13, 2013, 02:43:50 AM »

And Mitchell Starc's celebration was unsportsmans like when Trott was wrongly given out.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/image/650371.html
Swings and round abouts IMO


Trott was out ALL day, EVERY day.

This revisionism is becoming rather tiresome.
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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #402 on: July 13, 2013, 02:47:34 AM »

And Mitchell Starc's celebration was unsportsmans like when Trott was wrongly given out.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/image/650371.html
Swings and round abouts IMO


Yeah, just like Freddie Flintoff adopting the Jesus pose after Strauss claimed a catch on the bounce to get Phil Hughes at Lords in 2009.

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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #403 on: July 13, 2013, 02:49:42 AM »

Yep was going to say "Gilchrist Walking" is a complete myth. I'd be surprised if Clarke didn't downplay it - pot, kettle, black etc.


What utter crap.

Show me anecdotal evidence where this was the case.

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Re: The Ashes 2013
« Reply #404 on: July 13, 2013, 02:53:54 AM »


Broad can claim he didn't feel the edge, and there is no evidence anyone can give to prove otherwise.


Nonsense.

Unless you have smashed the ground at the same time (and even then), a batsman can feel even the finest feather on his bat.

To suggest that a batsman couldn't/didn't feel the edge is delusional/dishonest.

All Broad has to say is, "the umpire didn't give me out - so I stayed".

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