Topic: Harrow vs short handle.... (Read 33417 times)

Jimbo · « **Reply #60 on:** May 08, 2020, 02:49:25 PM »

Quote from: jp2408 on May 08, 2020, 02:47:04 PM

I use a 2 8 Harrow with a men�s thickness handle from b3 and its great. Massive specs, feels like a wand and the face width difference is a quarter of an inch or 0.3cm each side - actually get a ruler out and look at that!

For me as a short (No Swearing Please) not having a bat I either occasionally hit the ground with or that whacks me on the wrist due to gripping it low down the handle (which happened a lot when I tried short blade long handle SH bats) was a revelation.

Mind me asking what height you are? Being a shade over 5ft8 I reckon I'm around the borderline.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #61 on:** May 08, 2020, 02:55:42 PM »

I am 5'6'' and have successfully used size-6 bats. They are great! They are a 6-3 configuration with regular SH blade width.

HEre are some details:

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=46757.msg753483#msg753483

jp2408 · « **Reply #62 on:** May 08, 2020, 02:58:49 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on May 08, 2020, 02:49:25 PM

Mind me asking what height you are? Being a shade over 5ft8 I reckon I'm around the borderline.

5�8 on dating sites - more like 5 7 and a bit really

InternalTraining · « **Reply #63 on:** May 08, 2020, 03:01:11 PM »

Quote from: Vitas Cricket on October 18, 2013, 03:08:33 PM

This is not the best example in all honesty. Both bats are Pakistani made and are good examples of showing how Pakistani batmakers can be a bit 'lax' when it comes to getting sizings right/consistent. Both bats are supposed to be SH and are both labelled as such.

Generally, harrow bats are narrower.

Here is the funny bit: when I found my 6-3 bats (made in NZ by great bat makers) to be a little too light, I looked at a bat maker in UK to replicate them but at a heavier weight. I had bought other bats from this bat maker, and while their other bats remained performance free, who excelled at designing bats to spec. Well, performance free team couldn't get the specs (bat size length wise) right after two attempts. Yes. I have two bats sitting in my house that were not correctly made. They just didn't know what was the correct length of a size-6 bat!!! I gave them detailed instructions of all the measurements and they couldn't get it right. And, to this day those bats remain performance free.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #64 on:** May 08, 2020, 03:48:19 PM »

Quote from: DorsetDan on May 08, 2020, 03:31:11 PM

To be fair bat sizing between manufacturers does vary. I would always go by Lavers chart as that seems like the most comprehensive list

Well, that is news to me although my experience (evidently) would support your statement.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #65 on:** May 08, 2020, 04:33:18 PM »

^ Wow! I thought a standard meant same measurements across country lines. You live and learn.

There is an easy fix to this problem. Every standard could be suffixed with a country code to indicate their "standard". SS: SH-IN; LV: SH-NZ; CA: SH-PK; Performance Free: SH-PF (they get their own country code).

Or, we can have a true standard with some ISO certification.

Jimbo · « **Reply #66 on:** May 08, 2020, 05:49:54 PM »

Think the standard varies between makers rather than by country though!

In a slight aside and back to the main discussion, got the measuring tape out and my favourite bat has a Harrow length blade and longer handle.

Overall size is SH but I don't grip right up the top of the handle which makes me think that Harrow bats may be the way to go if I can find them in an appropriate weight...

Jimbo · « **Reply #67 on:** May 08, 2020, 06:34:42 PM »

Quote from: DorsetDan on May 08, 2020, 06:29:06 PM

Harrow length blade is only a half inch shorter. AKA L540 (well 546). Plenty of bats with those kind of blade lengths. Only reason to choose a Harrow is if you choke the handle and want the half inch shorter handle too. Or are a cheapskate for a light bat

Not going to lie, getting a G1 bat from a reputable source for sub �150 is quite appealing. I love the shorter blade but I don't use the top of the handle and I don't think that an extra few mm on the blade width is worth �100+.

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #68 on:** May 08, 2020, 06:41:00 PM »

@Jimbo alternative options would be:

Small mens
Super short handle
Academy
(Whatever anyone else calls them)

Or you could chop some of the knob off an existing handle

jp2408 · « **Reply #69 on:** May 08, 2020, 07:04:22 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on May 08, 2020, 06:34:42 PM

Not going to lie, getting a G1 bat from a reputable source for sub �150 is quite appealing. I love the shorter blade but I don't use the top of the handle and I don't think that an extra few mm on the blade width is worth �100+.

This is an advantage (price) but not all batmakers will make a 'big' harrow for junior prices - I think it depends on the type of cleft that has to be used.

Also big brand harrows are useless as they tend to be 2'2-2'4 and like toothpicks.

As I said, using a short blade long handle I found I gripped it low and the unusued part of the handle would hit me on the wrist when driving, which could actually be quite painful.

I don't think I'll ever go back to using a SH, although I may pay SH prices occasionally if the batmaker I want won't produce my spec at a junior price.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #70 on:** May 08, 2020, 07:13:04 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on May 08, 2020, 05:49:54 PM

Overall size is SH but I don't grip right up the top of the handle which makes me think that Harrow bats may be the way to go if I can find them in an appropriate weight...

Weight is a deciding factor which led me back to heavier SH bats. But I hold it low, at the level of the size-6 mark. With the right shape, it worked for me.

What's your ideal weight? Keely's G2-G3 pricing is reasonable and I am sure they can make you a shorter blade bat.

Jimbo · « **Reply #71 on:** May 08, 2020, 07:28:58 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on May 08, 2020, 07:13:04 PM

Weight is a deciding factor which led me back to heavier SH bats. But I hold it low, at the level of the size-6 mark. With the right shape, it worked for me.

What's your ideal weight? Keely's G2-G3 pricing is reasonable and I am sure they can make you a shorter blade bat.

I've used between 2lb 7oz and 2lbs 10oz, wanting to try something on the lighter side so 2lbs 6/7oz is probably about right.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #72 on:** May 08, 2020, 09:46:34 PM »

^ It should be do-able. A quick search led to some Harrow size bats for under GBP135/150, not sure about the weight but you can always call and check.

ME · « **Reply #73 on:** October 01, 2020, 09:23:28 PM »

I am 5ft 4 inches; ran an experiment - bought an MSR SH 2lb 11oz, chopped off 1 inches from the bottom, cut off the knob from the handle leaving a few millimeter so that the binding does not get undone. The length came to 80.5 cm, weight came to 2lb 9oz - a size 6 with the width of a full bat. Played for a half a season, felt amazing as I still got the heavy punch. Driving was easier as it was not catching my wrist and I could grip the top at my waist height. I was pleased and did the same to my GM Neon - the middle came down to middle - even sweeter. I have played a few longer innings now with them and I am so glad that I took the plunge.

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