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procricket

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Re: Heartwood and G1 bats
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2013, 03:51:19 PM »

How do you get a performance grade bat without it being fully knocked in so the bat maker is sure it has good performance?

I have a bat which is made like all the rest, but it looks sub standard with a few pin knots on the face. Could I say it's performance willow without knocking it in? Well I decided its not a great looking bat and not one I would sell with my stickers on and sell for £150 maximum. I started knocking it in, better than the £225 knocked in bat I have but I'd be wrong to sell it as a performance willow.

I think this performance will thing is nonsense unless bats are supplied knocked in before you buy them. For me knocking in is part of falling in love with your piece of willow. It's a time to tell her that you love her and she is your only true love and that as well as being a looker she needs to be a right goer to.



How bloody true mate too many people rate bats on initial tap rubbish.

as i have previously alluded to 90 per cent of bats are the same no matter grains and wood.

Heartwood 3 years ago was the rage now it seen just as wood like fashion things change.

A BAT IS A BAT no matter what it looks like grains and wood just get the one that picks up well and has the wood in the right area ie coverage..

The players bats i have seen have not been the best looking like the reserve willow at a bat place i go to it about weight to wood ratio.

Nobody can tell if a bat is going to be a belter until it been fully knocked in and used quite a bit or been battered by a bowling machine..

Mr Garrett i will be in touch

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Re: Heartwood and G1 bats
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2013, 03:55:00 PM »

The heartwood question has long been settled IMHO. Several reputable batmakers have said it has no negative impact on performance. MANY pros have heartwood on their bats. However, there is a catch for the common Joe who pays for his bats and can't afford to toss them away ever so often. Heartwood needs more maintenance in the form of frequent light oiling, because it is more brittle and cracks more readily compared to sapwood. Also, it tends to be slightly denser/heavier. Other than that, there's no real reason to shun heartwood.

Also, about not being able to tell whether a bat is a performer until it has been fully knocked in, I think that is only half true. You can indeed tell some bats will be real performers even before they have been knocked in. You can often tell these with the initial mallet test or ball bounce test. What is more difficult is picking bats that appear to be duds at first, but once knocked/played in can turn into guns. I think that is what Dave and Garrett are referring to. Not sure whether it is possible to *consistently* tell these apart from a right plank. Might require a keen ear and lots of experience to get there?

Btw, where is Norbs when we need him  :D
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Re: Heartwood and G1 bats
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2013, 10:44:20 PM »

Yeah it does'nt affect performance but heartwood does'nt make a bat look pretty !
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Re: Heartwood and G1 bats
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2013, 11:28:25 PM »

Yeah it does'nt affect performance but heartwood does'nt make a bat look pretty !

Going to disagree here, heartwood looks lovely on a bat in my opinion
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