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SaadIjaz

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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2013, 08:52:19 AM »
What do you do with a LTD edition bat of this quality?

Surely being only 1 of 200 you would want to keep it stored in a glass cupboard somewhere and admire it for years to come.. But as a cricketer and batsmen, any piece of attractive willow calls for a net session and eventually make it useful in a match..

That is the dilemma here!
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2013, 08:56:53 AM »
The bats are said to be made from GN's  professional players' grade willow, what is this grade in relation to their other grades offered? Can't see any mention on the GN website regards an over view of willow grading
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2013, 09:30:09 AM »
Quote from: Jimmyg on August 06, 2013, 08:56:53 AM
The bats are said to be made from GN's  professional players' grade willow, what is this grade in relation to their other grades offered? Can't see any mention on the GN website regards an over view of willow grading


its the grade they save for their players supposedly, so its obviously top of the line.
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2013, 09:34:49 AM »
professionals use softer willow and softer balls to the league and balls you can buy so if you use the top grade willow in English leagues the balls are to hard for the soft willow and will probably start to crack the bat
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2013, 09:39:01 AM »
Quote from: LEACHY48 on August 06, 2013, 09:30:09 AM
its the grade they save for their players supposedly, so its obviously top of the line.
That's what I was trying to get at, where the Professional Player's grade sits with say their LE and Legend grading.
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2013, 09:42:27 AM »
Quote from: coady123 on August 06, 2013, 09:34:49 AM
professionals use softer willow and softer balls to the league and balls you can buy so if you use the top grade willow in English leagues the balls are to hard for the soft willow and will probably start to crack the bat

Is this true? If so I don't understand why the amatuers shouldnt use the same type of ball as the professionals. Also if you have a soft pressed bat I have found it just takes longer to knock it in for it 2 become a gun.
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2013, 09:45:25 AM »
Quote from: tate035 on August 06, 2013, 09:42:27 AM
Is this true? If so I don't understand why the amatuers shouldnt use the same type of ball as the professionals. Also if you have a soft pressed bat I have found it just takes longer to knock it in for it 2 become a gun.

yeah that's why when you buy for example a top of the line gm they don't last as long as the crap 303 because the willow if softer
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2013, 11:21:40 AM »
Quote from: tate035 on August 06, 2013, 09:42:27 AM
Is this true? If so I don't understand why the amatuers shouldnt use the same type of ball as the professionals. Also if you have a soft pressed bat I have found it just takes longer to knock it in for it 2 become a gun.
Not many cricket clubs are going to use £70 International balls to play with in games, your match fees would certainly have to increase a fair bit. So its a case of economics rather than amateurs not being able to play with Test quality balls. However there are plenty of good quality balls available for a tenner that won't damage your bat.
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2013, 12:12:30 PM »
Quote from: Jimmyg on August 06, 2013, 08:56:53 AM
The bats are said to be made from GN's  professional players' grade willow, what is this grade in relation to their other grades offered? Can't see any mention on the GN website regards an over view of willow grading

Well I've spoken to the Lords shop about the willow grading on the Ashes bat, and Steve there said that the willow used is basically the equivalent of the LE grade. Not really up to speed on GN bats to know how that equates price wise to there standard models.
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2013, 12:18:22 PM »
Well that's disappointing as it says they're made from wood reserved for the players......glad I didn't take the plunge!
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2013, 12:36:33 PM »
Quote from: coady123 on August 06, 2013, 09:45:25 AM
yeah that's why when you buy for example a top of the line gm they don't last as long as the crap 303 because the willow if softer
Top of the line GM bats last extremely long as they're pressed so bloody hard!
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2013, 12:38:24 PM »
Quote from: junter97 on August 06, 2013, 12:36:33 PM
Top of the line GM bats last extremely long as they're pressed so bloody hard!


from recent expierence from my friends bats hes on his 3rd F2 original LE  this season
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2013, 12:43:25 PM »
Quote from: coady123 on August 06, 2013, 12:38:24 PM

from recent expierence from my friends bats hes on his 3rd F2 original LE  this season
Really? My captains is well into its 2nd season and just starting perform a lot better. Maybe this seasons GMs are softer pressed?
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2013, 02:33:58 PM »
Quote from: junter97 on August 06, 2013, 12:43:25 PM
Really? My captains is well into its 2nd season and just starting perform a lot better. Maybe this seasons GMs are softer pressed?

think they are , thye crack through the toe then up the sides very easy it seems or hes getting unlucky with his bats
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Re: Limited Edition Gray Nicholls
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2013, 02:39:30 PM »
I would put this down to luck more than a generalisation about the bats themselves.

Im sure the balls used by Pros and Joe public dont vary that much in hardness, willow is a natural product and as such susceptible to breaking at one time or another.

Pros use willow that is less dense than we get to lay our hands on meaning they get a larger bat in terms of volume of wood without it going up the scales in terms of finished weight.
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