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Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« on: September 06, 2013, 12:39:41 PM »

I just wanted to bring this to attention of the users of Custom Bats. A local club to myself Worcester Dominies and Guild has been given a 200 point deduction due to their ground being "too small". They were promoted this year for the first time into Worcs Division 1 and were on track for a good mid table finish after proving themselves as contenders in the league. It has since been decided by the league that they will be receiving a 200 point deduction for their ground being apparently too small (I have played there many a time and it most certainly isn't - especially compared to a number of grounds in the local leagues!). This will obviously put them into automatic relegation and quite frankly we are disgusted with this. The ground was cleared at the start of the year for the season so how they can reverse this is beyond me! If you could all get behind WDGCC and show your support then hopefully the league will have to take notice over this matter!

You can follow the cause and support WDGCC on their twitter account here: https://twitter.com/WDGCC

In an age when grassroots cricket is growing at its best this sort of behaviour just cannot be allowed to happen. How can a club grow if it is being held back at every corner? I thank you for your time reading this and hopefully we will be able to find a solution for WDGCC if the cricketing family gets behind them and shows their support!!!

Best Regards,
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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2013, 12:42:49 PM »

A petition has also been set up at: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/supportwdgcc/
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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2013, 12:59:49 PM »

Waited til the end of the season to make sure they got relegated! Shocking behaviour from the league. Hop AllOutCricket read this and can write a story damning the league in the next issue!
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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2013, 01:11:49 PM »

Never played or been to the ground myself, I play in div 3 of the worcs league and we played Burghill and Tillington, their boundary on the one side was literally a yard outside the 30yard circle - they wouldn't stand a chance.

This is shocking from the league.
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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2013, 01:17:39 PM »

I have played there and it is a small ground but to relegate a team for it is sad. I heard they were planning to buy the neighbouring field. I am sure Harborne has an even tinier second team ground. It's one way of removing a threat for other teams, petty club politics.
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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2013, 01:45:22 PM »

Leagues are invariably run by ageing dinosaurs .
Until that changes these thing will still happen..
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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2013, 01:46:11 PM »

Never played or been to the ground myself, I play in div 3 of the worcs league and we played Burghill and Tillington, their boundary on the one side was literally a yard outside the 30yard circle - they wouldn't stand a chance.

Exactly my point, there are plenty of grounds in the Worcs league that are the same size (if not smaller!). Double standards from the league once again sadly!
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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2013, 01:46:39 PM »

get the ECB involved would be my advice, Paul Bedford was the man for club cricket from memory.

Also take a look at the league constitution, is there a right of appeal against the grounds inspectors decision.
 

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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2013, 01:59:53 PM »

This sounds ridiculous, if the ground was too small, why let them into the league? If the officials think the size was questionable, then they should have measured up at the time they got promoted. 
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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2013, 02:04:06 PM »


out of interest, how long have you been playing at this ground in this current league?

Is it a division thing? eg have to meet x standard to be in the prem...
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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2013, 02:06:25 PM »

I just wanted to bring this to attention of the users of Custom Bats. A local club to myself Worcester Dominies and Guild has been given a 200 point deduction due to their ground being "too small". They were promoted this year for the first time into Worcs Division 1 and were on track for a good mid table finish after proving themselves as contenders in the league. It has since been decided by the league that they will be receiving a 200 point deduction for their ground being apparently too small (I have played there many a time and it most certainly isn't - especially compared to a number of grounds in the local leagues!). This will obviously put them into automatic relegation and quite frankly we are disgusted with this. The ground was cleared at the start of the year for the season so how they can reverse this is beyond me! If you could all get behind WDGCC and show your support then hopefully the league will have to take notice over this matter!


How many games did they play away and won surely if they won away from home how many and what points did they get as they could say their away record kept them in the division

You can follow the cause and support WDGCC on their twitter account here: https://twitter.com/WDGCC

In an age when grassroots cricket is growing at its best this sort of behaviour just cannot be allowed to happen. How can a club grow if it is being held back at every corner? I thank you for your time reading this and hopefully we will be able to find a solution for WDGCC if the cricketing family gets behind them and shows their support!!!

Best Regards,
Adam
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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2013, 02:47:10 PM »

not great news for us as we are joining the worcs league for the first time next season and this sounds very dodgy

talked about entering us in div 4 rather than the bottom division so guess that will mean holding teams back from div 5 or not relegating a side in 3 to accomodate us
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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2013, 03:44:14 PM »


With regards to the league regulations they met all the regulations at the start of the season (they had a checklist to fill, of which they spent a great deal of time and cash doing!). The ground was deemed fine at the start of the season so to somehow change their minds at the end is very suspect. I've played for 2 clubs in the Worcs league and both have had their troubles regarding age old regulations which only seem to apply for certain clubs... For example my current club was promoted to a division which "required" sight screens this season otherwise we couldn't go up. After a great deal of effort we managed to raise the funds required (the club lacks cash to be honest) and spent over £3,000 on sight screens. Naturally half the teams in the league didn't even have sight screens, the money definitely could've been spent better elsewhere improving the much needed existing facilities! There seems to be a lot of favouritism towards established clubs that have been around for yonks as opposed to the real grassroots clubs that have managed to grow into good level sides!

not great news for us as we are joining the worcs league for the first time next season and this sounds very dodgy

talked about entering us in div 4 rather than the bottom division so guess that will mean holding teams back from div 5 or not relegating a side in 3 to accomodate us

Where are you joining from? I currently play for a side in Div 5 and we've just finished 3rd, safe to say the team who finished 2nd won't be happy if they're denied their promotion haha!

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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2013, 03:51:12 PM »

sums up how some of leagues are run most of thime
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Re: Worcester Dominies and Guild CC - 200 point deduction
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2013, 04:13:16 PM »

If the pitch was said to be fine at the start of the season then I don't see how they can now come to the decision its too small and you basically need to be relegated  :-[. Would be disappointing for a team to be playing potentially slightly sub-standard teams for a reason like this , especially with the way the league dealt with it.
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