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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2022, 09:52:15 PM »
I noticed SS edge stamps on Broad's Adidas during the Test series.
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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2022, 10:00:15 PM »
Quote from: Kulli on July 13, 2022, 08:36:22 PM
To be fair the GN lad was making bats at headingly that weren’t for sale and they were all monsters. Salt had a giant butterfly that I was very keen to make off with.

The GN stall at Headingley had a £300+ 'for sale' bat that apoeared to have a butterfly stain protrouding from the sides of the sticker on the back. I was going to take a photo, but managed to convince/kid myself that I wasn't really that tragic.
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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2022, 10:20:56 PM »
The vast majority of bats are Asian made so depends what your talking about. Do you mean SS and SG to name a couple vs GN and Kook that are not Asian bats but are nearly all made there!

SS and SG are in my experience pressed very well from the off and do leave indents easily if you use straight off. GN are very good, kook can be a bit hit and miss. This is a very small comparison of Indian made bats and I imagine a lot of the sticker brands use Asian made bats as well. Generally I don’t feel you get many planks these days
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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2022, 09:45:43 AM »
My interest this thread was more about the 'opening up' side. But is it true that a well-pressed bat is one that 'leaves indents' when new?

A lot of people talk about well-pressed bats. But surely all bats are 'pressed' about the same after hitting several thousand balls? (No, I don't mean they all perform the same.)
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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2022, 12:33:40 PM »
'Opening up' as Jake mentioned, was more a term for the grains separating when the bat is well used. It's now become a term used for when a bat starts to feel more pingy i suppose. However, any bat will generally only get better the more its played with and will feel its best just before it delaminates i feel. Maybe its the face getting better, maybe it's the handles softening a little.

In terms of pressing, the batmakers I've spoken to believe there is no such thing as 'soft pressed' or 'pro pressed', just under pressed. I see a lot of new bats coming through the workshop for repair with big indentations and cracks. Maybe because they're underpressed, or probably more because they're overdried and underpressed to achieve 'big specs'. Either way, imo neither is good for the longevity of the bat.

I've also had people saying they've knocked their bats in for 5 - 6 hours and are still seeing big indentations. Surely that's not what anyone wants! 😆
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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2022, 01:35:44 PM »
This is a great thread to read and really informative. I still struggle now with the whole "knocking in " process and it still feels a little an element of trial and error with it with potentially big consequences!  My eldest son has just bought a new bat (will post about it soon) where he opted to buy locally and pick it out rather than buy via online - but I struggle to answer his question of how long to knock it in. But I guess it comes back to the amount of pressing its had and how dry etc. it is. He's spent many hours on it and first net with soft balls has seen a couple of indentations.
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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2022, 02:53:23 PM »
Biggest difference I found with knocking in was getting a proper heavy mallet instead of the GM/GN generic ones. Speeds it up massively and actually gets the bat knocked in.
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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2022, 04:10:31 PM »
Isn't knocking-in just continuation of pressing? Which is where my point about saying a bat is 'well-pressed' after it has hit thousands of balls being a nonsense came from.
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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2022, 08:46:03 AM »
Quote from: Jimbo on July 14, 2022, 02:53:23 PM
Biggest difference I found with knocking in was getting a proper heavy mallet instead of the GM/GN generic ones. Speeds it up massively and actually gets the bat knocked in.

Do you have any recommendations? I'm looking for a better mallet as I am using a standard GM one currently.
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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2022, 09:30:34 AM »
G'day Bungle,

The best mallet I own is a Lignum Vitae mallet from Elviar's Shed.  Its the godzilla of mallets.   
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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2022, 09:33:08 AM »
Quote from: Bungle on July 15, 2022, 08:46:03 AM
Do you have any recommendations? I'm looking for a better mallet as I am using a standard GM one currently.

They're not cheap, but these are phenomenal - https://elviar.co.uk/product-category/knocking-in-mallets/

Really is a case of you get what you pay for. If that's out of budget, the chunky GN mallet is better than the standard efforts.

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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2022, 10:02:52 AM »
Second the abv. Workout for the arms too! 😆

In terms of indentations on new bats. Take a look at this from an Instagram post i saw.....









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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2023, 12:14:13 PM »
Quote from: jonny77 on July 15, 2022, 10:02:52 AM
Second the abv. Workout for the arms too! 😆

In terms of indentations on new bats. Take a look at this from an Instagram post i saw.....


Someone went crazy with a Nail Hammer?
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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2023, 12:25:48 PM »
It's Just Cricket back from the dead and knocking bats in again?
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Re: Dumb Question
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2023, 01:00:31 PM »
Quote from: urban.monk on June 01, 2023, 12:14:13 PM
Someone went crazy with a Nail Hammer?

No, this is some random small Indian company and this is a one of their new bats. This is a partly the issue with modern bats, much drier and you see much more indentations
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