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Re: the Right Age to Wear a Lid...
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2013, 03:03:43 PM »

This is a very intersting topic, and one that has been discussed by cricket-minded folk in my area many times. Of course the ECB guidlines are pretty clear and I can understand the many reasons why they are enforced. 

I think that juniors starting out in hardball cricket find it not only difficult and even off putting wearing lids, but they also feel clumsy and odd wearing pads, gloves, a box, etc. In my experience (one son 26 the other 14), but also of qualifying as a coach way back in 1996 and having coached and managed teams since (in the UK), is that it soon becomes second nature and they quickly get used to it. There is also the argument - and actually it's a strong one - that wearing a lid keeps ones head straighter and stiller, eyes more level, etc. And of course, should a youngster get hit on the head whilst not wearing a lid, this can - and has - put many a young player off and can develop a lack of confidence.   

The costs... well, it depends - our club has decent kit for our juniors, so many do not have helmets themselves, although lots do. It can - as we all know - be an expensive sport (just shelled out for my 14 yr old a new B3...) and some people are in a better position than others, but most parents seem happy to provide kit especially for safety purposes, and whereas I agree - it is unlikley that an U11 bowler will get such pace and lift to scone someone, it also stands threfore that a kid of ten doesn't really need a £250 lid and just about anything will suffice.     

It is a good habit to get into and as I say, they do so pretty quickly and it becomes second nature. Being of a certain vintage and still playing (although I did retire after the last game of the season only to come out of retirement that very same night.... once the ale had eased my aching bones), I have never worn one (although I wish I had earlier in the year as I did top edge one into my dish, fracturing my right cheekbone - although I did bowl 16 overs after doing so and played on the Sunday, after which I suggested to the wife I should perhaps go to A&E...). But that is really the first such injury I have had and the guy was sharp and I am old!

However, I feel it's both sensible and beneficial for junior players to wear lids and get used to wearing one as early as possible, so that it becomes second nature. And although I cannot speak for other countries about cost, etc., it doesn't seem to be restrictive in my experience and that clubs very often at junior level meet both the need and the cost of protective equipment.   
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Re: the Right Age to Wear a Lid...
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2013, 04:48:50 PM »

The first couple of years i played cricket (ages 10/11) i didnt wear a lid. Then when i was about 12 the owner of the indoor school wouldnt let us bat without one because of an incident he heard about where a kid died in a bowling machien not wearing one. This happened about the same time he started selling helmets strangly enough!
So from the age of 12 onwards I started wearing one (im 29 now), i now find it odd to not wear one and find that im never in the right position playing shots because im so used to adjusting my head with a helmet on.

If a kid is wearing a helmet from the time he first starts playing hardball cricket i cant see how it will have any negative affect on his game. It will be all he knows and he would have learnt to play the correct shots and have the ehad in the right position whilst wearing a lid.

In terms of safety it only takes one top edge / funny bounce / accidental beamer to smash all your front teet or take out an eye - is the risk really worth it. 
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Re: the Right Age to Wear a Lid...
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2013, 04:59:43 PM »

I always wear a helmet now as earlier this season I top edged a real medium pacer into my front tooth, luckily I didn't lose it but having shelled out about 500 quid on getting it sorted and having to have a root canal etc etc on the front tooth I have since decided to wear one even when facing the slowest of slow bowling.  Obviously it's a bit too late in my case but I'll never not bat again without a helmet as even though I luckily haven't lost the tooth I definitely learnt the hard way!
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Re: the Right Age to Wear a Lid...
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2013, 05:52:45 PM »

Mate of mine, who plays for St Annes CC, if not choosing to bat in a lid - depending on who is bowling, always bats wearing a gumshield.
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Re: the Right Age to Wear a Lid...
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2013, 06:09:29 PM »

I've always worn one and would always recommend others too aswell. It may well impact balance, vision when growing up but id rather someone i knew got out for 0 and came home in a rather grumpy state than someone who scored 100 and run the risk of a terrible injury.
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Re: the Right Age to Wear a Lid...
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2013, 06:12:03 PM »

Was never really a batsmen until recently. Always been a bowler. I beleive a helmet turned me into a batsmen, and it only wore it for stupid reasons,


Youth, didn't wear a helmet, at 14 I top edged one onto my nose, and lost the tip, had to have skin grafts and plastic surgery done.
Still didn't wear a helmet.

At 18 was told I had to wear one by law, I batted at eleven hated it and complained I couldn't see anything, always made the grill wide so I could see more and made little runs.

Discarded it when I could and went back to a cap.


Was a slogger from 19- 27 no helmet, odd 50 but no more than 300runs a seasons.


28, I decided I wanted to play switch hits, reverse, Sweeps and dilscoops. Practising with windballs and tennis balls I realised my face was in danger. So bought a masuri.

Discovered I'm more confident at pulling, happier to get on the front foot.

Last 3 seasons I hit 790, 710 and 800 runs on a sat, and bat in the top 5 and also open, Dependant on side.


Go figure, the stupid reason to wear a helmet has actually turned out to bea great decision.

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Re: the Right Age to Wear a Lid...
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2013, 11:05:37 PM »

food for thought of something that happened less than 48 hours ago it seems....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/27/darryn-randall-cricket-head-hit-ball-dies_n_4168258.html

havent been able to read all the comments here as t'internet isnt great out here ATM but why would you risk it ???
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Re: the Right Age to Wear a Lid...
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2013, 11:59:41 PM »

I think helmets are becoming a necessity, every Tom, Dick and Harry wants to bowl faster, often with little control. Add to that uncovered club pitches with massively varying bounce and the increased risk of a top edge.
I'm 45 now, got a topper into my eyebrow a few years ago, definitely not a batsman so it looks like it's time to invest in an Ayretek.

RIP Darryn Randall, no idea if he was wearing a lid and some of the posters on that blog should be ashamed.
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Re: the Right Age to Wear a Lid...
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2013, 07:14:04 AM »

Helmets seem to be an emotive subject, but from my perspective, they made me a much more confident batsman. I started wearing one about five years ago and, in spite of taking a while to get used to, it quickly became apparent that I was happy to get my head in line and over the ball in a way that I hadn't before.

I grew up with helmets being something the pros wore, and then, not necessarily (think Viv in his prime and Goochie in the white, grill-less item). Going through Uni, pretty much no-one wore one and there was some torrid bowling about. But then, helmets were expensive safety items, and most of us simply didn't think we'd get hit on the head. I recall maybe three of our second and third teamers wearing helmets and about half the first teamers. I also remember a guy getting hit in the ear by a bouncer and dying 3 months after he lapsed into a coma from the impact.

I think they are a good thing, and I'm also absolutely certain that may of the innovative shots played in T20 and One Day matches wouldn't exist if the batsmen using them hadn't been brought up wearing a helmet. How many people (honestly) would get their face in line with a ball to scoop it over their head if they couldn't practice the shot many times over knowing that if they missed, their teeth are safe?
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Re: the Right Age to Wear a Lid...
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2013, 08:17:44 PM »

As a coach working with 8 year olds and older I find it strange not to encourage youngsters to wear a helmet. This summer we had 20 girls who had never tried a set of pads, gloves or a helmets on before. They all tried the kit on and loved wearing the gear, especially the helmets and were wearing the helmets to bat in, even against a tennis ball. As they progress into hard ball cricket the wearing of helmets will become second nature, a bit like pads and gloves which no one questions as they have been worn for years and years.
Having worn a ball to the side of the head 20+ years ago when I did not put a helmet on, due to it being a spinner bowling ( missed a full toss/ beamer and oouch that smarted a bit!!! Have not been hit since as far as I can remember but as stated before once hit its to late.

One question who goes out to bat with out a box?? we all protect that bit, so why not the head?
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Re: the Right Age to Wear a Lid...
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2013, 12:22:39 AM »

As a result of this thread, getting older and slower and wanting to keep my face pretty, I've decided to get an Ayrtek Raw.
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Re: the Right Age to Wear a Lid...
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2013, 12:46:00 PM »


One question who goes out to bat with out a box?? we all protect that bit, so why not the head?

Can't go without a box! Gotta protect the body part used for thinking and decision making!
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