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Sam

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Measuring performance
« on: November 13, 2013, 06:05:38 PM »

Hey guys, just a little thing I was curiously thinking about earlier when I got a bit bored   :D. Would it be possible to measure how well a bat performs, with a fairly exact measurement, through the frequency of its 'ping'? When we hit a bat with a mallet we generally all seem to listen to the sound it makes and judge how well it will go by that. Wouldn't this mean there is a perfect frequency where a bat has its optimum performance and as you get further either side from this the performance slowly deteriorates? Perhaps you would also have to factor in for a few other variables at the same time?

Just a little discussion I thought I would start up as it seemed quite interesting to me  :).
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Re: Measuring performance
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2013, 06:12:02 PM »

When I was at Uzi Sports I noticed some of the guys (soulman1020 and Roco) like dull sounding bats. After hearing this I went about tapping up the bats that Fattus hid, and I understood what they meant.

The dull sound almost feels like it is coming deep within the bat the sharp sound from the surface (I heard this on a lot of Kooks)

My Aldred and DS have nice dull sounds, the Aldred is the dullest!
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Re: Measuring performance
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2013, 06:16:14 PM »

My measure is simple if I middle it and it goes for 4 plain and simple

Sound of a bat has very little to do with anything

Try hitting balls at different angles you get different sounds.

Performance can only realy be calculated in 2 set areas in my mind

If a bats over pressed your (No Swearing Please) the press has gone too deep and you can't get it back

Under pressed and you knocking in become the final presser

90 per cent of all bats are the same and most don't use a bat long enough to know if it a gun or not

Keeley finish press was as good as it got others have caught up but he is still very good

Sounds are great but not conclusive quite a few of my mates bats sound horrible but one in particular goes like a blumin rocket
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Re: Measuring performance
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2013, 06:18:59 PM »

Compare the sound of a LAver with the sound of a Newbery. Very different but both go.
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Re: Measuring performance
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2013, 06:21:05 PM »

Hence my point after half a season of use most of the bats I have used have been good because I became the finished presser and took my time in finishing what I call the final crust

The 3 stages of bats Inital crust work that crust then the crust becomes lose and the bat is finished

Performance I still believe if it over pressed is around 90 per cent all the same they all start at different levels but end at the same level.  Longevity at the optimum level is key and the better ones tend to not last very long
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Re: Measuring performance
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2013, 06:24:40 PM »

Try hitting balls at different angles you get different sounds.

But if you used a consistent tool (mallet) at the exact same angle , with the exact same force it would always be under the same conditions and each bat would generate slightly different sounds?

Got a very good point there though Tim , can't quite think of any way to explain that through this theory  :-[. Guess we just have to consider what makes the different sounds between the laver and the newbery, which I assume would just come down to pressing.

Edit : I'm taking your word on a laver sounding different to a newbery by the way , I don't have a laver to test my newbery against  :D.
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Re: Measuring performance
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2013, 06:27:33 PM »

Handles quality too plays a massive part too cork rubber a mixture I led to believe rubber cork mixture is best where cork is the lightest and also brings about sounds.

Bats quality is mainly in the the mind too many people do not let bats mature

Ps I used a laver for 4 years they do sound different


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Re: Measuring performance
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2013, 06:30:23 PM »

Yeh I can see where you're coming from with the handle which has made me think about something very similar.

When a ball hits the toe of the bat , you get that short thud of a vibration that moves all the way up it, evidently at a low frequency. When you middle the ball you do not feel this vibration, presumably because there are actually more smaller vibrations (a higher frequency)?
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Re: Measuring performance
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2013, 06:33:05 PM »

Now your getting into physics and my theory on that is a bats performance can not ever be judged by a batsmans performance.  There also has been and always will be people who think the best bat will buy them runs

Your answer Sam is centre of inerture
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