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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #165 on: November 24, 2013, 12:20:12 PM »

Couldn't agree more Vic. I'd gone for 1-1 in the series, with Broad and Johnson as the leading wicket takers on either side. If Johnson continues like this, I'd give it to the Australians 3-0.

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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #166 on: November 24, 2013, 01:17:07 PM »

typically I wouldn't have had much confidence in Johnson sustaining his form, but if you look at his record over last year he has done really well.

when flower steps away as eng coach the dire performances of the Eng team in the first test of an away series will be his only real blott.

player for player, I still feel that we have a stronger team, so should have enough to win this series.

having Bresnan back will give a bit more confidence to the team too. In the past he has been a bit of a lucky charm.

also only two of the games are on fast bounce pitches. Sydney and Adelaide are pretty slow, in comparison to Brisbane and Perth.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #167 on: November 24, 2013, 01:37:25 PM »

A well deserved win for the Aussies. I'm not bothered about the celebrations, why shouldn't they be happy for a first win in a while and a victory over a team that beat them in a recent series. I for one would be celebrating until the cows come home!

With regards to the chirping, it isn't necessary and pretty boring to a tailender. I'd much rather see and hear it said to a batsman. Although there weren't many who could be classed as batsmen in the two innings from England.

Cricket is a funny old game. It certainly has a way of biting you in the ass and Warner may well be on top at the moment but his comment on the evening of day 3 was a bit cringeworthy.

Outplayed and well done to the Aussies. Lets hope the remaining games are more of a contest!
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #168 on: November 24, 2013, 05:45:11 PM »

Indeed and I bet a lot worse has been said in the past. England need to hit back hard in the next test. I'm not sure Tremletts little floaty away swing is putting the fear into the Aussies. Hats off to them though, love a good contest.

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This is why Aussies are hated world over. When a captain sets such examples, what can you expect from guys like Warner, Watson etc who are just uncivilized in my opinion. First win the series Mr. Clarke. I hope England comes back strong and shows Australia how to do it humbly...
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #169 on: November 24, 2013, 08:54:29 PM »

We are quick to jump on Clarke for what he said but no-one knows what Anderson said to Bailey and visa versa for Clarke to fire up like that... And England win Humbly? Wake up and smell the roses.

I don't like what Clarke said either but you need the whole picture to make judgement... The English team certainly aren't angels
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #170 on: November 24, 2013, 09:16:12 PM »

We are quick to jump on Clarke for what he said but no-one knows what Anderson said to Bailey and visa versa for Clarke to fire up like that... And England win Humbly? Wake up and smell the roses.

I don't like what Clarke said either but you need the whole picture to make judgement... The English team certainly aren't angels

With the Aussie on this. England are no angels and there is no need for it, especially when winning so easily. However, some of the Aussie 'banter' is well out of line IMO. It's sad I know but amateurs will copy said antics and it's absurd as they neither have the skill or pace to actually back it up ( and mr 80mph, that's you too)
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #171 on: November 24, 2013, 09:52:50 PM »

Question on 'banter', why were the umpires so weak in this match with it and also why is it tolerated and not stamped out? I mean Clarkes/warner and diddle at the end weren't 'part of the game ', that was so far over the line if someone said that to me I'd probably deck them tbh.

Surprised England came out to shake hands too after it
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #172 on: November 24, 2013, 09:56:50 PM »

Question on 'banter', why were the umpires so weak in this match with it and also why is it tolerated and not stamped out? I mean Clarkes/warner and diddle at the end weren't 'part of the game ', that was so far over the line if someone said that to me I'd probably deck them tbh.

Surprised England came out to shake hands too after it
I wouldn't be so quick to judge. Jimmy gives it so much lip when he's bowling that I bet it's a hangover from that.

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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #173 on: November 24, 2013, 10:07:03 PM »

I wouldn't be so quick to judge. Jimmy gives it so much lip when he's bowling that I bet it's a hangover from that.

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That's why I said match. I'm sure he does it too And I would like to see them clamp down on any player, not just the Aussies etc. honestly not Aussie bashing here. Just wondering why umpires don't stop it.

I can understand humorous banter and that's a really good thing to keep but when it's abusive/offensive etc then surely they should warn the players etc.

I mean they are in the perfect place in a game to realise who 'gives it the talk' and who just cracks on with playing cricket. If someone gives it then let thm receive. If someone doesn't give any then offer them protection. It's quite simple really
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #174 on: November 24, 2013, 10:12:26 PM »

If flower is smart he will be using Clarkes comments as a method to focus the English minds and give them the kick up the backside they deserve. They look undercooked thanks in no part to the schedule and some of the lollipop served up in the practice games ie AU's A playing with 2 frontline seamers, one of which barely got to 125kph. A far cry from the practice matches 3 years ago. I think aus can whistle next time they come to the UK. They will be lucky to get 3 days in northern Scotland against a club side. That aside England must get better and who knows whether the comments will come back to bite aus. I doubt Anderson will be losing much sleep over it, I'm sure he's heard similar in Burnley.

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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #175 on: November 24, 2013, 10:17:36 PM »

We are quick to jump on Clarke for what he said but no-one knows what Anderson said to Bailey and visa versa for Clarke to fire up like that... And England win Humbly? Wake up and smell the roses.

I don't like what Clarke said either but you need the whole picture to make judgement... The English team certainly aren't angels

its not just about Clarke, if you look at Ponting, Steve Waugh etc they were all arrogant and disrespectful. If I am playing my first game and see my captain picking up fight, I will think its cool and develop as another typical Aussie cricket. And as far as I have seen this exists only in cricket. I don't think it exists as much in other sports like hockey. If Clarke is a true leader he would have played the last test match against India and not run away lke a sore loser and abandon the team. His back came to his rescue.

Learn to intimidate with bat and ball like WestIndies did and not with your mouth.

England cricketrs are no saints but I sincerely hope they win
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #176 on: November 24, 2013, 10:32:33 PM »

its not just about Clarke, if you look at Ponting, Steve Waugh etc they were all arrogant and disrespectful. If I am playing my first game and see my captain picking up fight, I will think its cool and develop as another typical Aussie cricket. And as far as I have seen this exists only in cricket. I don't think it exists as much in other sports like hockey. If Clarke is a true leader he would have played the last test match against India and not run away lke a sore loser and abandon the team. His back came to his rescue.

Learn to intimidate with bat and ball like WestIndies did and not with your mouth.

England cricketrs are no saints but I sincerely hope they win

And Clarke hasn't intimidated with the bat?..

Check his average over the last 2 years... Last year he averaged 106 and his average as captain is 66.. Easily the best test batsman over the last 24 months I say.

And averaging 132 from his last 10 tests at home!

It's only the first test England has lost don't be a sore loser just yet... Plenty of tests to turn it around
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #177 on: November 24, 2013, 10:43:12 PM »

I love this myth about West Indies not sledging, they were as savage as anyone.
Anderson was only copping back some of the rubbish he has handed out, you don't see players like Cook give or receive it.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #178 on: November 24, 2013, 10:56:55 PM »

And Clarke hasn't intimidated with the bat?..

Check his average over the last 2 years... Last year he averaged 106 and his average as captain is 66.. Easily the best test batsman over the last 24 months I say.

And averaging 132 from his last 10 tests at home!

It's only the first test England has lost don't be a sore loser just yet... Plenty of tests to turn it around

I am neither English nor Aussie mate :D, just a cricket fan. I knew you will bring up those averages.  :D
but you didn't respond to  everything else I had to say.
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Re: First test at the Gabba
« Reply #179 on: November 24, 2013, 11:04:05 PM »

I am neither English nor Aussie mate :D, just a cricket fan. I knew you will bring up those averages.  :D
but you didn't respond to  everything else I had to say.

I don't think it's worth commenting on the rest of it... Every test cricket team has arrogant players who sledge... Pakistan, India, England, Australia, West Indies... All of them... You can't name one team who doesn't have these arrogant sledgers... And most of them can back it up with either bat or ball.... I see the actions of Clarke, Waugh, Ponting, Border actions of captains backing up their players ... Nothing more than any captain would do
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