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[Chad]

Yep. Well then Clarke is a plonker.

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You should let your own thoughts and standards be the basis for your comments and conclusions, not a governing body!

As a neutral, I have to say that this was what I was looking forward to. England have the stronger team on paper, so I feel they will rise after this defeat, and we will get to see much more exciting cricket. Australia played really well, and were absolutely ruthless on all days bar day 1. I wish the test dragged onto today though, as I was planning on watching it!

With regards to the sledging, I think Clarke was a little over the top, but let's be honest, when some of us are out on the field, we do feel the red mist creep in, especially towards those who have sledged you in the past. It's all part of the game I feel, and maybe it's the aggression Australia need to have to become anything like the force they used to be in all forms of cricket. That being said, the game was well and truly won, so maybe Clarke could have been a little wiser with the words he used.

Maybe we gotta stop with all the 'Pommie and Aussie' bashing and just enjoy the cricket. We all follow the best sport in the world, let's not make this a nation bashing/stereotyping thread. It's starting to feel like this is the comments section of an India v Pakistan Youtube video!

[lazza32]

You should let your own thoughts and standards be the basis for your comments and conclusions, not a governing body!

As a neutral, I have to say that this was what I was looking forward to. England have the stronger team on paper, so I feel they will rise after this defeat, and we will get to see much more exciting cricket. Australia played really well, and were absolutely ruthless on all days bar day 1. I wish the test dragged onto today though, as I was planning on watching it!

With regards to the sledging, I think Clarke was a little over the top, but let's be honest, when some of us are out on the field, we do feel the red mist creep in, especially towards those who have sledged you in the past. It's all part of the game I feel, and maybe it's the aggression Australia need to have to become anything like the force they used to be in all forms of cricket. That being said, the game was well and truly won, so maybe Clarke could have been a little wiser with the words he used.

Maybe we gotta stop with all the 'Pommie and Aussie' bashing and just enjoy the cricket. We all follow the best sport in the world, let's not make this a nation bashing/stereotyping thread. It's starting to feel like this is the comments section of an India v Pakistan Youtube video!

In that case. You bloody beauty Clarke give it to em.

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[Number4]

And leave the "pommy and Aussie" thing out of this.. We love giving it to the poms and they equally love giving it to us.... ... That's what the Ashes are all about!!!

[joeljonno]

As if "crack this idiots skull" hasn't been said a thousand times on a cricket field?

I get stuff like that most weeks when I open the batting.

Worse is that it's the umpires in your game saying this, not the oppo.

[Chad]

And leave the "pommy and Aussie" thing out of this.. We love giving it to the poms and they equally love giving it to us.... ... That's what the Ashes are all about!!!

Fair point, I guess neutrals will never be able to fully understand or appreciate that kind of a rivalry haha!

[jamielsn15]

I'm British and although Clarke's comment was proven to be excessive, i don't think any less of him. I do think he's a superb batsman and imaginative captain. He seemed under a lot of pressure in the build up to the game and it was probably a combination of the release of that pressure and also to endear himself to his players and the Aussie public.

it was slightly ott, but is it worth cricket lovers on the forum from both countries falling out over? No. Lets have banter and reasoned debate not abuse. I for one don't enjoy reading it.

re trott, lets hope he's able to get the appropriate treatment. I've had friends affected by mental illness and its an area that needs a great deal of understanding and research...

[Kulli]

So, Bell to bat number three and Bairstow to come in at 5/6.

Will they call up an extra batsman as cover, or just leave those on the A tour?

[iand123]

Shame for Trott. You have to question why if this has been something he's been dealing with "for some time" why he was sent on tour for a long period of time away from his family. I'm sure Warner's comments will be analysed and jumped on even more now, as much as Mr Warner doesn't seem to be the brightest spark going i'm sure he wouldn't have known about this and shouldn't be made out to be the villain.

One has to fear for Trott's future in international cricket after this, but, to be quite honest i'm sure him (and all cricket fans) would rather he is better and feeling good for himself and his family rather than be playing cricket

[smilley792]

Bell was 3 fir a hit and went back down the order. Will the try this again?

Will they put root at 3. Go for 3 opener logic?

Or even let Pieterson go in at 3?

[Red Ink Cricket]

So, Bell to bat number three and Bairstow to come in at 5/6.

Will they call up an extra batsman as cover, or just leave those on the A tour?

they have to bring in a recognised batsman. someone with a bit of grit and happy to bat long periods of time undeer pressure. pushing root or bell up is the wrong move and will weaken the lower order. i rate balance but think he needs to be around the set up more, he will get his chance, but at 1-0 down in an ashes series i dont think its the best time. Root doesnt have it mentally atm to bat at 3. hes under pressure not scoring runs for a while. look at the stupid shot he played when we were 5-6 down. absolutely no need to play it. wheres the Digin yorkshire grit?

compton should be on a plane now! simple as that. he should have been there before.

[Number4]

Shame for Trott. You have to question why if this has been something he's been dealing with "for some time" why he was sent on tour for a long period of time away from his family. I'm sure Warner's comments will be analysed and jumped on even more now, as much as Mr Warner doesn't seem to be the brightest spark going i'm sure he wouldn't have known about this and shouldn't be made out to be the villain.

One has to fear for Trott's future in international cricket after this, but, to be quite honest i'm sure him (and all cricket fans) would rather he is better and feeling good for himself and his family rather than be playing cricket

Took the words right out of my mouth

[iand123]

KP or Bell at 3 for me. Shame Prior is struggling so much with the bat as he could shift to 6 and Bres (if fit) could bat 7 and give us an extra bowler (and a half decent bat)

[jamielsn15]

Ordinarily in the form he's in bell should move to 3. I'm sure he's put his name forward.
it would give the middle order some fragility though, especially with prior out of form...

[csnew]

Not sure why bresnan has been picked in the squad, not played cricket in ages. He's not going to be back bowling at a test match standard after 1 warm up game.

Trott situation seems similar to Tresco. Agreed that he should not have come on tour.

[uknsaunders]

Are you one eyed or simply something worse?

In Cutting (a future test bowler), Copeland (an ex test bowler) and Henriques (past and future test allrounder) the Australians offered up a far better attack than the rubbish served up to the Aussies in England during the warm up matches this last Northern summer.

Go ahead and name the bowling attacks fielded in the Aussie warm up matches...go on...

Dufus.

Here you go:-

J Overton   ,GM Hussain   ,CAJ Meschede   ,PD Trego   ,GH Dockrell,CJ Russell   ,CAJ Morris   ,GM Andrew      ,JD Shantry   ,MM Ali,DKH Mitchell,CJ Jordan,LJ Hatchett,MSPanesar   ,CJ Liddle,CD Nash         ,LWP Wells         ,MH Yardy

Not forgetting Compton played for Somerset to bolster the batting. The above are mainly county regulars with a few test players/odi players as well. Considering we have 18 counties not 6 states I don't think it's the worst collection of bowlers out there. Admittedly Worcester, Somerset and Sussex aren't the strongest bowling counties either.

Bollinger, Hilfenhaus, Coulter Nile would of added some lacking edge. Steven O'Keefe in the spin department, Hauritz even.  Copeland might of played 3 tests but hardly a regular. Henriques barely bowled. Sky commented on how strange it was and let's face it Tasmania in November isn't guaranteed to go rain free (Englands fault possibly for agreeing to the schedule). Point is it wasn't the second best attack in Australia. When England put out a Lions side it's as close as possible to a shadow test team - JAR Harris,KHD Barker,LE Plunkett,SC Kerrigan,BA Stokes all played in a 2 day game against Australia this summer. I don't think I'm being one eyed at all.