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[The_Bird]

Gary Speed was very sudden and very tragic, nobody could see that coming at all. A lot of hate in social media about Trott being a wuss etc. the world we live in can sometimes be a hideous place. Hope he gets the help he needs as on form he's a class act.

[moonball]

Listened to a very interesting show on Radio 4 over the weekend about the "stiff upper lip"...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01hw44y

Yes, let's hope some respite and recovery can assist Mr Trott and he can benefit from a break from the pressures of international sport and come back refreshed next season. With all of these issues (speaking from my thankfully limited experience with assisting others who have suffered mental health issues) people's background and experiences, their tolerances to external factors, degrees of suffering, variables such as exposure to and the ability to absorb different factors / challenges, etc., all have an effect and, as such, although given a similar "title", it isn't as simple to compare Trott's issues with those of Tresco and The Yardage. As such, and the fact that mental health issues can either be resolved, coped with or successfully managed, I'm pretty certain that Trott will make a 'recovery' and a return to the England set up. I certainly hope so. Best of luck to him. And a little bit of work on his technique and options to the short ball would also help!       

[Bats_Entertainment]

I can't believe there are people on here who believe that depressive illness is a bit like the 'pressure' they feel being expected to score 50 or 100 runs for their club cricket team.

[uknsaunders]

I can't believe there are people on here who believe that depressive illness is a bit like the 'pressure' they feel being expected to score 50 or 100 runs for their club cricket team.

I don't think pressure itself, but how it makes you think is what was being discussed. It can act certainly act as a trigger for depression, as can over work. Many things or a combination of things over a period of time can cause it. It's not that simple and each individual is different.

[Liam-SCCC]

How are England not calling anyone up?

Our batting line up is not performing and we are going to have to add a rookie in Ballance or a failed number 6 in Bairstow to our weak line up

[mad_abt_cricket]

This is the third incident when an English player returned home in the mid of a foreign tour with stress related illness. I didn't heard any player from any other nation suffering with this illness even though all go through high level of stress and expectations from their home crowd. This does raise serious question on the conditions under which these players got this illness. Does the English setup is more focussed on the performance rather than creating an environment where players could enjoy their game and play freely?

[Bats_Entertainment]

How are England not calling anyone up?

Our batting line up is not performing and we are going to have to add a rookie in Ballance or a failed number 6 in Bairstow to our weak line up

A bit harsh to write Bairstow off as a failure already, I feel. That said, I wouldn't feel that confident were he to replace Trott in the next Test.

[joeljonno]

How are England not calling anyone up?

Our batting line up is not performing and we are going to have to add a rookie in Ballance or a failed number 6 in Bairstow to our weak line up

Who would they call up? A failed opener in Compton, a failed middle order in Ravi or Samit? Or another rookie?

Please note, I used 'failed' in the same way the previous does about Bairstow.

[joeljonno]

This is the third incident when an English player returned home in the mid of a foreign tour with stress related illness. I didn't heard any player from any other nation suffering with this illness even though all go through high level of stress and expectations from their home crowd. This does raise serious question on the conditions under which these players got this illness. Does the English setup is more focussed on the performance rather than creating an environment where players could enjoy their game and play freely?

Although it is not quite the same, there are always retirees. The one I can think of is Martyn in 05 Ashes.

Perhaps it is because the English have a better way of finding and managing this illness that it is more well known (nb speculation).

[T-Rapta]

How are England not calling anyone up?

Our batting line up is not performing and we are going to have to add a rookie in Ballance or a failed number 6 in Bairstow to our weak line up

Bairstow, Ballance or Stokes on the tour or call up Compton, Bopara, Taylor or Morgan in my opinion. Problem is I dont think they have been training, could be wrong. Was talk of Jim Allenby maybe ?

Or a batsmen from the EPP squad - M.Ali, Chopra, Buttler, Robson or Vince. Bit to early though I reckon.

[mad_abt_cricket]

Martyn retired at the age of 35 when there was pressure on him to perform with Watson and hodge waiting to take his spot. He went on to play ICL and IPL in India.
Trott is just 32 and all these cases happened in a tour on a foreign soil when the player is away from his family.
Different boards have different policies regarding travelling with family on a trip abroad. What does English board regulations say in this regard?

[TangoWhiskey]

Bairstow, Ballance or Stokes on the tour or call up Compton, Bopara, Taylor or Morgan in my opinion. Problem is I dont think they have been training, could be wrong. Was talk of Jim Allenby maybe ?

Or a batsmen from the EPP squad - M.Ali, Chopra, Buttler, Robson or Vince. Bit to early though I reckon.

Jesus, calling Robson up for an away Ashes series when England are 1-0 would destroy the poor lad bearing in mind the stick he'll get from all comers for being an Australian!

[joeljonno]

Martyn retired at the age of 35 when there was pressure on him to perform with Watson and hodge waiting to take his spot. He went on to play ICL and IPL in India.
Trott is just 32 and all these cases happened in a tour on a foreign soil when the player is away from his family.
Different boards have different policies regarding travelling with family on a trip abroad. What does English board regulations say in this regard?

Speculation again I think below.

Wasn't Trescothick to do with his wife playing around when he left?

Martyn still quit mid-tour, he wasn't dropped from the squad.

How many manage stress at all? Nobody really knows on here.

[jamielsn15]

Depression isn't necessarily triggered by pressure-we have no idea of his personal circumstances and as they have been managing it, it would suggest it has correlated with his form over the past year or even more.

the management team would have certainly asked his opinion on how he felt...and would've used that as part of their decision to select him. I certainly wouldn't direct a load of stick at the ecb, they manage this much more competently than other sports.

sadly there is so much stigma around mental illness, borne out of ignorance and fear. Lets hope that he is left alone as per his wishes to manage his condition to a point he can play again. Let us also hope that awareness and understanding are addressed rather than the stuff on social media.

regarding who comes in, they've said no replacement so lets see bell at 3 and its a great opportunity for ballance, bairstow or stokes to make a real impression.

[tushar sehgal]

1 - If you don't have it you don't understand how difficult it can be.
2 - Sometimes lack of knowledge about it does not mean it doesn't exist. Players in those countried develop other issues, Kambli is a great e.g. that comes to mind.
3 - There is this belief that you can tough it out, don't be week etc. Its not that simple

On most days you could feel down but believe you can cope, amount it to pressure of life/situation etc but then there are some days where you cannot control it or manage it or hide it, takes a bit to recover from it and everyone recovers differently with varying amount of time. You don't know what is going to trigger an episode, atleast not early or what the symptoms are. Most people are even embarrased to talk about it let alone go see a professional but it needs to be done and takes a lot of courage, most days you feel like a failure in one way or another, need a very strong support structure around (internal and external). Accepting help is difficult, sometimes people trying to help may seem like your worst enemies and others might not have a clue what they are talking about but when the clouds clear you feel stronger and happier to have had the fortune being around well wishers who care.

I feel for Trott, I hope he gets all the help he needs and more. You have to fight your demons, not easy but that is the only solution (with help)