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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #270 on: December 09, 2013, 01:25:47 AM »

Broad is the villain for me today..he should have tried to battle hard on this pitch and frustrate the Aus bowler..absolute brain fart!!
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #271 on: December 09, 2013, 01:30:13 AM »

I liked you Cook. BUT stop talking PR crap. Be open and honest!
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #272 on: December 09, 2013, 01:38:11 AM »

Having been there for days 1,2 and 4 I can honesty say I am embarrassed by certain members of the England side, showing absolutely no bottle or quality throughout the game. Cook has even missing throughout the test, not jut his batting but his captaincy, field placements and bowling changes were questionable to say the least.

The support from the England fans however has been top notch, put the Australian fans to shame despite being on the back foot all test

Day 2 I was actually scared for the batsmen. I have never seen anyone run in with as much intent and bowl as quickly as Johnson did, it was frightening and the stadium was electric, it was as if Johnson would take a wicket with every ball.

Less said about Broads 2 dismissals the better, it sums the man up. And a number of other terrible cricket shots by other batsmen, KP and Bell to name a couple. Was great to see Root apply himself and look to really grit it out but for a peice of bad luck and a good grab by Haddin. Australia held there catches and we simply didn't, it proved a massive factor as the game unfolded.

What would everyone's team be for the test in Perth. Who do we hve tht can come in and strengthen? I'm not too sure
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #273 on: December 09, 2013, 01:53:16 AM »

Well at least it finished in time for me to watch the Panthers vs Saints game, let's see what the other Steve Smith can do!
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #274 on: December 09, 2013, 05:24:27 AM »

Yyyaaaaawwwwwnnnnn aaahhhhh is the test over? What happened? Did England save the match? ;) ;) :D :D
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #275 on: December 09, 2013, 05:28:35 AM »

Come on lads who is going to be dropped by the forum selectors?.. Who should never play test cricket again? How much longer is Cook going to captain for? When should Anderson "retire"?  Come on guys rip shreds off them.... That's how it works doesn't it?
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #276 on: December 09, 2013, 05:44:06 AM »

I am certain that Bresnan will be in for Perth (replacing Panesar). Personally I would like to see Finn get a game.
Stokes might be dropped and Ballance brought in?
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #277 on: December 09, 2013, 06:10:59 AM »

Yep, obviously you don't play 2 spinners at Perh.....shouldn't play 1

My guess is Lyon will be replaced by coulter-nyle.  He got clocked in the 150's last shield game at the WACA, and if you recon Johnson's bouncer is nasty..... Oh dear, are the poms in for a shock.

For the poms, Bresnan in for Monty is pretty obvious. Stokes out too IMO, not either good enough with bat or ball, makes way for a proper batsman, dunno who you've got that's any good, whoever it is won't crack 30 so what does it matter, may as well blood another kid, is there another root around? 

I also like Finn for Perth, quick and bowls a natural full length - which you need at Perth, pitch it further up than in other Aussie grounds. I would have Finn in for swan.

That would be 4 damn good quicks
With a mix of speeds, natural lengths and swing, 6 specialist batsmen (part bit players don't cut it in Perth) plus prior. I think thAts the way you should go for Perth
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #278 on: December 09, 2013, 06:37:30 AM »

I would not drop Swann. He might be crucial in the 2nd innings at the WACA. Instead I would gamble on Bresnan and Finn for Stokes and Panesar. That would be a bold move.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #279 on: December 09, 2013, 06:38:19 AM »

I think for me, the telling stat of the second innings is that no England wicket fell to a ball that was going to hit the stumps. That tells you all you need to know about rash shots and inappropriate decision making. If you get bowled as a batsman, then it's likely that the bowler has won. If you are out caught, then, unless you were stopping the ball hitting the stumps, you probably got yourself out.

It looks to me as though the mindset is totally wrong, But how do you fix it?

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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #280 on: December 09, 2013, 06:41:31 AM »

I would not drop Swann. He might be crucial in the 2nd innings at the WACA. Instead I would gamble on Bresnan and Finn for Stokes and Panesar. That would be a bold move.

I have watched cricket at and played on the WACA and never ever seen a spinner play a critical role, not
Even Warne.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #281 on: December 09, 2013, 06:52:58 AM »

I think for me, the telling stat of the second innings is that no England wicket fell to a ball that was going to hit the stumps. That tells you all you need to know about rash shots and inappropriate decision making. If you get bowled as a batsman, then it's likely that the bowler has won. If you are out caught, then, unless you were stopping the ball hitting the stumps, you probably got yourself out.

It looks to me as though the mindset is totally wrong, But how do you fix it?

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you don't make wholesale changes, we tried that policy during the 90s, as did the Aussies recently. It doesn't work. You cannot throw inexperienced players into ashes cricket, case in point stokes, who will be good enough, ultimately.

you fix the mindset by taking little things from the game. That Australia were 170-odd for 4 on day one, kp digging in, root getting runs at 3, prior getting into some kind of form, players getting out rather than got out.

that's how they'll go about it. Unfortunately i don't see England winning the series whether they have enough to win or draw at perth and given themselves a chance we'll see...
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #282 on: December 09, 2013, 06:58:00 AM »

Prior can't play at Perth though... The forum selectors had him sacked, never to play test cricket again as well as Root, KP, Jimmy Anderson ;) ;) :D :D
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #283 on: December 09, 2013, 07:11:41 AM »

Can't see how England can get a win in Perth. Will just have to be 2-2 then.
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Re: 2nd Ashes Test - Adelaide
« Reply #284 on: December 09, 2013, 08:10:34 AM »

Prior can't play at Perth though... The forum selectors had him sacked, never to play test cricket again as well as Root, KP, Jimmy Anderson ;) ;) :D :D

Ahh, but by your logic, the Aussies are cheating as "the forum" has spoken and already dropped...

Lyon, Watson, Smith, Johnson and Warner.

So if the Aussie selectors can ignore our "demands" then so can the ECB.
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