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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2013, 02:26:24 PM »

None of the stuff I have read, including JS Wright's webpage, really convinces me that I can see a butterfly shape.

Perhaps, for my own reference, I should call it 'sausage stain' or something?
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2013, 03:13:16 PM »

None of the stuff I have read, including JS Wright's webpage, really convinces me that I can see a butterfly shape.

Perhaps, for my own reference, I should call it 'sausage stain' or something?
I'm kind of with you on the look of some of these butterfly willow although a team mate has a GM apex with 2 butterfly stains and the grains coming off the "body" make it look like a butterfly.

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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2013, 04:12:44 PM »

I know what you mean but some do have the butterfly stain. Well here's the finished butterfly in the velocity shape as promised. 2-7 and its a real belter.
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2013, 04:43:19 PM »

I know what you mean but some do have the butterfly stain. Well here's the finished butterfly in the velocity shape as promised. 2-7 and its a real belter.
http://youtu.be/hHsSIYTzFvs

Is this bat available Paul?
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2013, 04:53:50 PM »

No this one was made for someone. That one at 3-6 is a beauty well to be honest they all are I can't choose between them it's just down to what weight you require and which bets fits the bill for it, just let me know
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2013, 04:58:37 PM »

Thanks, what is the middle position of the velocity?

I use an M&H Original High and the middle is pretty much spot on. It's about 8-14 inches from the toe.
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2013, 05:51:32 PM »

Wow 14" that's up just under the splice must be some bouncy tracks your on  :D . These are just huge middles as the spine runs deep up the bat so whilst the spine starts low down the middle extends up the bat. Let's put it this way I played county cricket with bats with smaller middles than this has or any of our bats for that matter.
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2013, 06:03:29 PM »

Interesting read

2. The Sweet Spot

Every batter knows that there is a special spot on a bat where the shot feels best. It sometimes feels so good that there is almost no sensation at all that the bat hit the ball. It's the same with a baseball bat or a tennis racquet or a golf club, so there is nothing special in this respect about cricket bats. Two special points on a bat are good candidates for the sweet spot. Technically, they are known as the fundamental vibration node and the centre of percussion. The node point is concerned with bat vibrations. Most impact points on a bat will cause the whole bat to vibrate, including the handle. Those vibrations persist well after the ball has left the bat, and they tell you whether you hit the ball cleanly. The biggest vibrations result when the ball strikes the tip of the bat. However, there is a spot about 150 mm from the tip where an impact causes no vibrations at all. That is the node point. As the impact point moves closer to the node point, bat vibrations get weaker and the shot feels nicer.

An impact near the tip of a bat will generate bad vibrations and it will also cause the handle to jerk forwards (towards the bowler), pulling your hand and arm with it. An impact higher up, near the handle, will push the handle backwards towards the body. In both cases there is a certain amount of jarring that feels unpleasant. The result is a sudden shock to the arm in one direction rather than a back and forth vibration. There is an impact point between the tip and the handle where there is no sudden motion of the handle at all. That point is called the centre of percussion. However, recent measurements show that it is too close to the handle to qualify as the sweet spot that batters talk about.
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2013, 06:21:39 PM »

Wow 14" that's up just under the splice must be some bouncy tracks your on  :D

I may have overestimated the height. That's what being sat at a desk at work will do to your memory!
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2013, 06:50:10 PM »

I always feel that a good bat is a good bat. The bulk of the wood needs to be in the key area of the blade. I used to to use the same shaped bats on county tracks as I did on club tracks sometimes I used heavier bats on club tracks certainly. If a lister cook gave a bat away everyone would be fighting over it even if it was a totally different shape to the ones they used and they would love it just because it is pressed beautifully and is a great bat.
  I am a big believer that there is a lot of bull spoke about bats and that if the bat has a good big middle then that's the key. Shape  becomes a personal thing and not many of the pros will get a choice of shapes they will be given some bats some will feel better than others and they will be the ones they favour. I was just sent power spots by gn and 175 by chase when I was playing two different shaped bats you couldn't wish for but I never had a bad one.
  If you know a bat has a big middle it gives you extra confidence if you have confidence you feel in fine form. Cricket is 90% in the mind
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2013, 06:59:07 PM »

I always feel that a good bat is a good bat. The bulk of the wood needs to be in the key area of the blade. I used to to use the same shaped bats on county tracks as I did on club tracks sometimes I used heavier bats on club tracks certainly. If a lister cook gave a bat away everyone would be fighting over it even if it was a totally different shape to the ones they used and they would love it just because it is pressed beautifully and is a great bat.
  I am a big believer that there is a lot of bull spoke about bats and that if the bat has a good big middle then that's the key. Shape  becomes a personal thing and not many of the pros will get a choice of shapes they will be given some bats some will feel better than others and they will be the ones they favour. I was just sent power spots by gn and 175 by chase when I was playing two different shaped bats you couldn't wish for but I never had a bad one.
  If you know a bat has a big middle it gives you extra confidence if you have confidence you feel in fine form. Cricket is 90% in the mind

Ha Ha - it's the other 10% that is giving me all the grief!
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2013, 07:24:06 PM »

That's the tough bit  :D
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2013, 07:44:32 PM »

Praying I get a bonus at work, or my bet comes in this evening or something so I can get one of these
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2013, 07:48:57 PM »

Think positive
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Re: Butterfly
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2013, 08:18:30 PM »

I always feel that a good bat is a good bat. The bulk of the wood needs to be in the key area of the blade. I used to to use the same shaped bats on county tracks as I did on club tracks sometimes I used heavier bats on club tracks certainly. If a lister cook gave a bat away everyone would be fighting over it even if it was a totally different shape to the ones they used and they would love it just because it is pressed beautifully and is a great bat.
  I am a big believer that there is a lot of bull spoke about bats and that if the bat has a good big middle then that's the key. Shape  becomes a personal thing and not many of the pros will get a choice of shapes they will be given some bats some will feel better than others and they will be the ones they favour. I was just sent power spots by gn and 175 by chase when I was playing two different shaped bats you couldn't wish for but I never had a bad one.
  If you know a bat has a big middle it gives you extra confidence if you have confidence you feel in fine form. Cricket is 90% in the mind
I couldn't agree more! For years now, I have used an Amplus and had myself convinced that I needed the high middle but I have recently bought a Screaming Cat which has a really full middle and it feels and hits just as well as my beloved Amplus. It took me a week or so to adjust to the Scat but the balance and ping is superb. When you get a new bat and the first drive is right out of the screws you instantly get that bond!
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