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[WalkingWicket37]

Cook hasn't done too badly as captain though has he? Assuming England lose today, his record stands at 9 wins, 5 losses and 6 draws whilst averaging 49.18 with the blade. Surely with there being no obvious replacement he has to stay? By comparison Clarke's record as captain is 16 wins, 10 losses and 7 draws, not that dissimilar to Cook's...

Stats only tell half a story though.
The win ratio doesn't mention negative field placements, going overly defensive or almost taking too much time out of a game to get a result by fannying around.
Cook's record may be passable but his captaincy isn't that good, let's be honest.

[ProCricketer1982]

At least England take their slip catches.. Oh wait


It's  just getting boring now, one mediocre team and one that appears to not be trying. Still, nice to see the thug of a slogger get out again and Rogers get some runs.

[compstallcc]

an edge manages to go underneath bairstows glove

[Gerry SA]

Bairstow's one cap as England wicket keeper looks to be a certain flop...

[Gerry SA]

At least England take their slip catches.. Oh wait


It's  just getting boring now, one mediocre team and one that appears to not be trying. Still, nice to see the thug of a slogger get out again and Rogers get some runs.

When did Australia come 'mediocre'?

Their bowling attack is genuinely world class.

And they have the only world class batsman, Pup, in the entire series.

[WalkingWicket37]

When did Australia come 'mediocre'?

Their bowling attack is genuinely world class.

And they have the only world class batsman, Pup, in the entire series.

I don't think they have become mediocre, they have been all series and in the run up to it

Their bowling attack is reasonable, but I think England's batting has made it look better than it is. That same "world class bowling attack" looked pretty average to me in India...

As far as batting goes I'd fancy my clubs 4th team to get a few against England, so a test side should be scoring runs!

[ProCricketer1982]

When did Australia come 'mediocre'?

Their bowling attack is genuinely world class.

And they have the only world class batsman, Pup, in the entire series.

World class bowling attack?  Can't say I'd put these up against Steyn, holding, McGrath, Warne etc. Harris is a fine bowler and sidle is mr accurate but England's battin has been woeful and has gifted wickets. Johnson's been fast but again, the tail hasn't even tried to stand upto him.  Lyon is consistent but is no Warne

[Gerry SA]

Chris Rogers you little, old, legend.

2nd Ashes hundred!

First in Australia and at his adopted home at the MCG

[Gerry SA]

I don't think they have become mediocre, they have been all series and in the run up to it

Their bowling attack is reasonable, but I think England's batting has made it look better than it is. That same "world class bowling attack" looked pretty average to me in India...

As far as batting goes I'd fancy my clubs 4th team to get a few against England, so a test side should be scoring runs!

The series in India is irrelevant.

Johnson played only 1 Test
Harris was injured.
Lyon was dropped then recalled.

Mickey Arthur's 'homework' gate and all that...

[Number4]

How quickly the tide turns... 6-12 months ago everyone was saying how great Flower was for this team and how he turned them into world no#1 now you are all crucifying him. It was just an ordinary England team who got lucky so it seems

[joeljonno]

Yeah great logic...

Anderson

Proving a point that you takes some of the available stats, make up an argument against what is generally being said and use some stats, but not all to make your case (rightly or wrongly). Applying the same rules, I highlighted how you would rate others with your system.

Shame about Bairstow, put a solid performance with the gloves 1st innings.

I think people need to wait till a full evaluation at the end of the series before naming heads which should roll. At the moment it is get rid of everyone and ger the performance squad in, new backroom staff, new coaches, new kit, new name, new Country.

[joeljonno]

Yes Monty, now if Aus can collapse like Eng can, this might get interesting.... 

[jw17]

I cant see Bresnan, Tremlett, Panesar, and Carberry in an England shirt ever again and tbh im not over disappointed by it all. Hopefully they'll Finn or Rankin instead of Bresnan and Borthwick instead of Panesar in the last test and start looking towards the future instead of stop gaps.

[skip1973]

World class bowling attack?  Can't say I'd put these up against Steyn, holding, McGrath, Warne etc. Harris is a fine bowler and sidle is mr accurate but England's battin has been woeful and has gifted wickets. Johnson's been fast but again, the tail hasn't even tried to stand upto him.  Lyon is consistent but is no Warne

McGrath, Holding, Warne.... These guy's are long gone and you can only play against who is there, at the moment Australians attack is as good as anything going around in the world. Englands batting hasn't just been awful this tour, they have been very scratchy for the last couple of years, the series in the UK was very flattering to the English, poor selections, very poor umpiring and off field drama meant the Aussies were always up against it. Still, they never surrendered as meekly as this English side.

[smokem]

I cant see Bresnan, Tremlett, Panesar, and Carberry in an England shirt ever again and tbh im not over disappointed by it all. Hopefully they'll Finn or Rankin instead of Bresnan and Borthwick instead of Panesar in the last test and start looking towards the future instead of stop gaps.

Seriously???  Carberry has been one of their most consistent performers with the bat!! And that's a guy new to test cricket. He's put most of the other batsmen (and you failed to name any) to shame...