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[Sam]

Whilst we are on the Carberry topic, has anyone else noticed or thought that he doesn't look as quick as people mentioned when he is fielding? Looks pretty laboured sometimes and doesn't seem to be putting much effort in

From what I've seen of him at Hampshire (which is quite a bit) he pulls off a lot more noticeable fielding performances in OD and T20 games. He's the sort of person who takes a stunning diving catch off the boundary rope or slides around to stop a ball that looked near certain of going for a boundary. Stuff that's not quite so noticeable in a test/FC, but I've not got a clue about the running. All I Know is he's normally covering the majority of the leg side boundary by himself here  .

[Mtown Don]

From what I've seen of him at Hampshire (which is quite a bit) he pulls off a lot more noticeable fielding performances in OD and T20 games. He's the sort of person who takes a stunning diving catch off the boundary rope or slides around to stop a ball that looked near certain of going for a boundary. Stuff that's not quite so noticeable in a test/FC, but I've not got a clue about the fielding. All I Know is he's normally covering the majority of the leg side boundary by himself here  .

Agree with most of this. Tends to look like he's jogging until he needs to hit top gear (which is not that often!)


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[Jason_Yuan]

if rankin ballance n borthwick all get to play, i feel sorry for finn, he might have lost a bit of confidence but now it will just make it worst if he doesnt play

[smilley792]

As much as we have been very very very poor. Im not sure 3 changes is right. Too many changes can have the opposite effect.

Add that to trott going home, and prior dropped. That's 5 changes from the original side. Is that not too many?

[jamielsn15]

Ballance in for root according to the telegraph...

[uknsaunders]

If that is true then I think it's a step backwards. Root is the future and carberry isn't at 33.

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[Sam]

I personally think the batting should stay the same, it's not as if Ballance has looked any better than any of our current batsmen when he's had the opportunity, but Monty should be replaced (not sure who with). I'm still fighting with myself as to whether we need to adjust the seamers and who should come in as well!

[smilley792]

Ballance in for root according to the telegraph...

Only theory they give behind thinking that is because "dropping carberry would mea end of his career"

Does really mean they won't do it?


Both Alec stewert and atherton have called for Carberry to be droped and root moved up.

[uknsaunders]

Carberry was almost shotless at times in Melbourne. Thanks to the around the wicket attack. Root has struggled but has tried to bat with intent and offers a spin option as well.

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[Sam]

Only theory they give behind thinking that is because "dropping carberry would mea end of his career"

Does really mean they won't do it?


Both Alec stewert and atherton have called for Carberry to be droped and root moved up.

Although slightly biased being a Hampshire supporter, I can't really see what Carberry has done wrong. He has a similar average to most of the other batsmen on the tour and has been doing it while seeing off the new ball coming towards him at 90mph+. Also suprised that Cook hasn't brought him on even if only for an over or two to try and get a break through as he actually took a few wickets for Hampshire and the England lions in the latter end of the season!

[joeljonno]

As much as we have been very very very poor. Im not sure 3 changes is right. Too many changes can have the opposite effect.

Add that to trott going home, and prior dropped. That's 5 changes from the original side. Is that not too many?

Stokes for Trott
Bresnan for Tremlett
Bairstow for Prior
Monty for Swann

now these three, that is 7 in total from first game.

[jamielsn15]

I'm not saying one should be dropped over another. Both have had mediocre series, but both are new to test cricket and being asked to play an away ashes series. Management have to take blame for that. Both are struggling to score, carberry is marginally higher on rr, but root is most obvious to stick with.

maybe carberry is in a better place mentally? Who knows. My biggest concern is ballance hasn't played for weeks. Sadly for this tour, I'm almost passed caring!

[joeljonno]

Although slightly biased being a Hampshire supporter, I can't really see what Carberry has done wrong. He has a similar average to most of the other batsmen on the tour and has been doing it while seeing off the new ball coming towards him at 90mph+.

Not gone on to get a big score and struggled with the bowling when around the wicket. That is what he has "done wrong".

The question should be "what have the others done that Carberry hasn't?".  Not a lot really. Apart from Stokes' ton and KP in the last test, nobody has stood out with the bat.

[Sam]

Not gone on to get a big score and struggled with the bowling when around the wicket. That is what he has "done wrong".

The question should be "what have the others done that Carberry hasn't?".  Not a lot really. Apart from Stokes' ton and KP in the last test, nobody has stood out with the bat.

Yes but that's what I meant. In comparison to the other batsmen. Roots struggled to get the small scores to be fair.

[joeljonno]

Yes but that's what I meant. In comparison to the other batsmen. Roots struggled to get the small scores to be fair.

Agreed, just the way you worded it.

To be honest, if we could replace the lot, I would.