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Research question
« on: January 08, 2014, 03:08:06 AM »

Just some general research...aside from the quality of the willow, what factors influence you when you make a purchase. I am aiming at the custom bat market specifically so avoiding brand power of the big boys. Im trying to establish how much significance you place on the design of the bat, the individuality of design, the branding, colours, shape, quality etc

Let me know your thoughts.  :)
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Re: Research question
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2014, 05:37:29 AM »

Price!?
Where the middle is - I am having trouble finding it!
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Re: Research question
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2014, 07:33:43 AM »

for me I would say the quality that you get from the finished product, in the finishing, playability, customer service etc. I think larger brands for some offer safety in the money they are spending they are getting a fair price for what they receive. this however is not true in my eyes..... shall we open the can of worms that is pro sponsorship ?? kids ask for bats they see their international hero's using when in fact it is made at a farm in Kent instead of by the advertised company !
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Re: Research question
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2014, 08:34:51 AM »

the pick up and a large size to weight ratio.

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Re: Research question
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2014, 09:10:45 AM »

Performance and feel, then looks.

I would rather have confidence in the bat, knowing it will perform well with a nice pick up and balance, than having a really good looking one with nice stickers.
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Re: Research question
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2014, 09:17:55 AM »

you cant tell whether a bat is good unless you have used it for say 100 overs???
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Re: Research question
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2014, 09:39:06 AM »

customer service.


if the bat has issues, is a dud or breaks early in its life. i wanna know im gonna get a repair/replace in a reasonable time.

If you have to wait months, or spend hours on telephone sending emails toget anywhere. what's the point?
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Re: Research question
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2014, 10:24:22 AM »

you cant tell whether a bat is good unless you have used it for say 100 overs???

Tapping it up with hammer, ball or fingernail you can hear and feel it whether it will be good or not.  Obviously how good will not be determined until you have knocked it in and used it. But first impressions count for a lot.

You can spot a dud at the out-set and I would pay more for a bat that I have had the chance to see before purchase.
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Re: Research question
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2014, 10:39:11 AM »

Reputation of the brand/ bat maker. Especially if I hear really positive reviews from this website or in life from people who know their cricket and also have many bats. I think it is hard to judge a 500 $ + bat if you have only used 1-2 top grade bats. But a lot of lads here literally own 10 + top class bats, so I would trust their reviews.
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Re: Research question
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2014, 01:16:05 PM »

Tapping it up with hammer, ball or fingernail you can hear and feel it whether it will be good or not. Obviously how good will not be determined until you have knocked it in and used it. But first impressions count for a lot.

You can spot a dud at the out-set and I would pay more for a bat that I have had the chance to see before purchase.

I would love to learn how to do that.. I presume it all comes down to the sound if you are using your fingernails?
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Re: Research question
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2014, 02:17:15 PM »

I was presuming that performance was a given...i.e. pressed properly with good grade of Willow.

I'm more looking at the buying decision, so yes reputation and pricing is key too. What about something that is new that is a little different?. Is there a certain type of people that will be attracted to this?
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Re: Research question
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2014, 02:31:32 PM »

Can I get it in my kit bag without her indoors finding out!!!!
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Re: Research question
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2014, 02:49:19 PM »

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I'm more looking at the buying decision, so yes reputation and pricing is key too. What about something that is new that is a little different?. Is there a certain type of people that will be attracted to this?

Honestly, people with some extra cash wanting to try out the new brand.

If I'm going to buy a g1 top class bat with a big price tag and want it to last at least a few years, I'm probably going to go with a laver and wood, screaming cat, choice or salix etc and not a new brand that has not had many reviews.

I guess most companies initially put their prices lower in order to attract a fan base who can spread the word of their quality.

You could also send it in to places that will review and have an audience already. Cricketstorelonline etc. ( I have seen them review bats that they do not sell). That will get you a reputation quicker. An example of this would be affinity bats for me. They are new ( at least to me) but I am drawn to them because of some really enthusiastic reviews iv seen.

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Re: Research question
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2014, 03:00:03 PM »

I was presuming that performance was a given...i.e. pressed properly with good grade of Willow.

I'm more looking at the buying decision, so yes reputation and pricing is key too. What about something that is new that is a little different?. Is there a certain type of people that will be attracted to this?

when you set up you'll have to work all this out ....
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Re: Research question
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2014, 03:36:49 PM »

Some very interesting opinions already raised here. It does depend on what you want from the bat and what the bat is for, if that doesn't sound ridiculous. Net or match bat, something to see you through the rest of the season or a longer term option. A bat for some slap & thrash T20 type stuff or more of a stroke-makers match / best bat, etc.

As I am now buying not only for me but for my 14 yr old, I can speak for both of us when I say value for money! I do like a bargain... The feel of the bat and it's pick are more important than dead weight and the mallet / ball test is key, as I would go for performance over looks if I am being honest, although having said that, I wouldn't be caught dead these days walking out to the crease with an absolute munter irrespective of how well it goes! What, out in the middle, with my reputation... I'd also want a decent bat to last, at the very least two seasons, which is where a net bat can come in, although ideally a net bat would of course need to be an almost perfect match to replicate what you'd use in a game at the weekend. And a net bat might be your retired match bat of course. Obviously it also depends on the type of player one is, the amount of cricket being played, where you bat in the order (to some degree), etc. My lad plays a lot - school, juniors, District, seniors, cricket academy, nets, etc. I managed to notch almost 600 runs last season too, so we warrant the expense and need a decent stick or two, as we keep telling his mum (him more than me now that I am in the twilight of my career).   

I think it may be difficult to get consistent answers to this question as for many, budget may be the driver, which is where value for money may come in and getting best value for ones cash, at whatever price point... this being the ideal forum from which to get good value I feel. At whatever level / grade - I guess performance is the number 1 attribute we are all looking for.     

An interesting topic.
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