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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #75 on: January 13, 2014, 05:59:56 PM »

When I say each piece is pressed differently it doesn't mean a different process, what I mean is if I was a huge company churning thousands of bats out I would need a multiple roller press and that would be set to a certain pressure and cleft after cleft would be put through that press at exactly the same pressure. Not every cleft needs pressing at the same pressure and the same amount of passes in my opinion as each pice is different. Some are naturally harder some are softer so each on I make is pressed according to that particular piece of willows individuality so I can try and get the best feel and performance I can out of it whether it be a players grade or butterfly grade. Does that make sense?

This is a massive benefit of going for a smaller brand over one of the larger brands.  Individual pressing is great for quality control in my opinion, and is a major reason why the smaller manufacturers' bats have greater consistency.  Very unlikely to receive a "plank" from someone who has this attitude to pressing, whether it's hand-picked by a shop or not!

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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #76 on: January 13, 2014, 07:54:02 PM »

How do the major manufacturers press their bats then ? I thought that even though they may be machined on a CNC machine they were still pressed individually by hand ?
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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2014, 08:03:41 PM »

How do the major manufacturers press their bats then ? I thought that even though they may be machined on a CNC machine they were still pressed individually by hand ?
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As far as I know that each bat is pressed individually regardless it is made by smaller or bigger manufacturer, so i agree with u.  In my view some press them better than others

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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2014, 08:20:56 PM »

From what I understand the very big brands have automated pressure on their press so it does it automatically. Have a look on youtube I reckon the gunn and Moore video shows an automatic press.
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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2014, 08:27:53 PM »

This is a massive benefit of going for a smaller brand over one of the larger brands.  Individual pressing is great for quality control in my opinion, and is a major reason why the smaller manufacturers' bats have greater consistency.  Very unlikely to receive a "plank" from someone who has this attitude to pressing, whether it's hand-picked by a shop or not!

Paul IJC at when you talk to I get the idea your just basically saying look I stock small brands why not buy from me ???  You need to get a bit more experience in cricket bats before commenting on something I suspect you know little about bar the bats you get from the smaller brands
This is not a slur it a obvervation.
What a marketing thread this is  I massively disagree  I know a medium sized company in England who Cnc and they press individually I even  know a Indian company who do as well.

Sorry but marketing is fine but this has gone too far.

Can we see the Aldred press I asked a question and didn't get a answer
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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2014, 08:31:42 PM »

Oh and I'm not slating anybody bats here the finish on the aldreads looks the best I have seen and the performance well people rate them no doubt
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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2014, 08:38:08 PM »

From what I understand the very big brands have automated pressure on their press so it does it automatically. Have a look on youtube I reckon the gunn and Moore video shows an automatic press.

GM had two or three presses last time I was there. They also had a couple of chaps dedicated to pressing. They didn't look as though they were just firing the clefts through on some sort of stereotypical production line.

Not that I know much about the pressing process, just my observation.


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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2014, 08:40:40 PM »

No I don't think they have but the one I've seen is automated. When I was looking for one I found one up Barnsley way which had multiple rollers on it they wanted about £8000 for it. Too rich for me that and too big for my little workshop
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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2014, 09:26:54 PM »

Love this video have watched many many times
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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2014, 10:35:45 PM »

i love that video.

i might go and see if i have any willow tree growing in my field
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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2014, 10:43:42 PM »

Can we see the Aldred press I asked a question and didn't get a answer

Sorry pro cricket didn't see this I can post some pics of it without a problem may have to take one tomorrow as not sure I have one to hand will have a look
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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2014, 10:47:25 PM »

Here's one I have found that I edited for some pics we did
Just a basic screw press single roller
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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #87 on: January 13, 2014, 11:03:25 PM »

Lovely very similar to the one in India I was shown.
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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
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Re: Top end or not top end that is the question
« Reply #89 on: January 13, 2014, 11:13:26 PM »

I'm now waiting for Fred Dibnah to roll a fag and tell us all about it's 'Victorian Heritage'.
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