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[Percy]

Well my entitled opinion is you've half-opened the door and will lead people to make their own assumptions about a man and a brand on a forum that loves supposition and making ridiculous bullsh*t statements.

By all means come on here with a valid complaint, particularly if you have discussed it with the man himself first - but you implied something and then didn't back it up, in my book that's bad form and the sort of thing that keeps manufacturers off this forum because we're too much grief for them.

Not your finest hour!!


ps - before any of you start yowling "Forum Sponsors should be allowed to be criticised" - I completely agree, but this is not what has been done here. Either get it out and wave it about, or keep it zipped up!

Firstly, I wholeheartedly agree with your post,  but by even commenting we are propagating the issue. By totaling ignoring the original  comment the lack of response from Forum members would be an indication of the validity of the comment  and it would hopefully die a death sooner.


But then again - maybe not!

[FattusCattus]

That would be the sensible thing to do Percival, but the posts got my 'dander' up, and I couldn't let it pass.

In my defence, the thread has also provoked many posts supporting Paul's service and products, so that can only be a good thing!!

[Bats_Galore]

Percy I agree with the sentiment of you post, but whilst new to the forum, I do think it is important to make this point. It would be nice to be part of a forum that craftsman especially and shops to a degree will me more willing to enter into discussions on the subjects that are dear to us all. I am of the belief that the majority do not for the reasons outlined ealier in the post, ie fear. One unnamed batmaker reffered to the forum as a scary place, and for me that is a sadness, and mostly due to the chance of being strung up over a misunderstanding or issues being dealt with in a public forum rather than privately, and finally conjectures and suggestions... As a result I think it important that non making forum members do our utmost to defend these skilled and knowledgeable men that are the core of this forum.

[Percy]

That would be the sensible thing to do Percival, but the posts got my 'dander' up, and I couldn't let it pass.

In my defence, the thread has also provoked many posts supporting Paul's service and products, so that can only be a good thing!!

I know how you feel - sometimes it just has to be said!

Can't say I have used one of Paul's bats but from everything I have heard they are something special.

[Jaffa]

On the topic of prices though.

I sourced a used Aldred butterfly from here for a team mate. I thought it would suit him.

In his first game he went out and scored his first 100. It sounds like a Master card advert.

[cricketbadger]

Bat that I bought 2 years ago from Paul custom made, to be a net bat, is now my number 1 match bat, flies out of the middle and is still in amazing condition. Nothing but good stuff to say for Paul and his work

[felix]

I'll add to the chorus of approval, which might help undo some of the (grossly unfair IMHO) damage that's been done here.  My Gold Sovereign butterfly, which Paul made in front of me 2 years ago, is possibly the best performing bat I've ever had, fantastic value, and Paul was an absolute pleasure to deal with every step of the way.  Did an exceptional job of reducing it a bit a year ago when (owing entirely to my own bravado) I specified it too heavy for my liking.

[TangoWhiskey]

To be fair, this topic is like a tripadvisor review.

People love to complain. Hundreds of people might visit a restaurant and have great food, great service and go home feeling satisfied and that's the end of it. A couple of people might leave a review on trip advisor but the vast majority wouldn't even consider it.

Three people will go to the same restaurant and a fly might fart near them, they will get upset and they will 100% go on trip advisor and leave a really (No Swearing Please) review. So for those 100 happy customers, maybe 5 will leave a good review compared to the 3 unhappy ones how have left 3 bad reviews. When you as a potential new customer read these reviews, you'll see that 37.5% of the people who left a review were unhappy with the service they received and you'll consider going elsewhere.

This is why leaving (No Swearing Please) throwaway comments about someones service on the internet is an awful thing to do. Luckily the reviews for Paul in this thread alone should help convince people otherwise. Clearly Paul is doing something right. I'm not saying you should put up with poor customer service, but posting crap about things on the internet should be your absolute last resort, not something you should do because the vendor hasn't replied to the email you sent 20 minutes ago yet.

[Aldred Cricket Bats]

Firstly, I wholeheartedly agree with your post,  but by even commenting we are propagating the issue. By totaling ignoring the original  comment the lack of response from Forum members would be an indication of the validity of the comment  and it would hopefully die a death sooner.


But then again - maybe not!

Well this will be my last ever post in this forum. So you think that because I didn't reply to the guy as promptly as normal that me and my business should die a death sooner rather than later. Is that the gist of it? As it happens I didn't get back as quick as normal as I was in fact in the middle of nowhere in France with barely any internet service working for the Lord's Taverners with a group helping children with physical and mental disabilities. Now this may for other one man businesses be something different like a family illness or death or something that takes them away for a few days and you wish them I'll because of an unfortunate predicament, well that's a very nice way to think and I really hope life goes perfectly swimmingly for you.

[edge]

@Aldred Cricket Bats that post by Percy was totally unrelated to the recent thread! And he certainly isn't saying that your business should die either!

[Percy]

@Aldred Cricket Bats that post by Percy was totally unrelated to the recent thread! And he certainly isn't saying that your business should die either!

Definitely not! My hope was that the post would die a death as not being valid or with substance! I am a  great supporter of all small businesses, cricket related or not, and would never dream of saying such a thing and am sorry that it was misunderstood!

[dannyhall04]

Well this will be my last ever post in this forum. So you think that because I didn't reply to the guy as promptly as normal that me and my business should die a death sooner rather than later. Is that the gist of it? As it happens I didn't get back as quick as normal as I was in fact in the middle of nowhere in France with barely any internet service working for the Lord's Taverners with a group helping children with physical and mental disabilities. Now this may for other one man businesses be something different like a family illness or death or something that takes them away for a few days and you wish them I'll because of an unfortunate predicament, well that's a very nice way to think and I really hope life goes perfectly swimmingly for you.

Blimey, talk about misreading and flying off the handle 

[smilley792]

I think Aldreds comments show he's no longer invested in the forum. He's  scan read this thread. Took something completely out of context and blown a gasket.

One has to presume the recent thread isn't the reason he's off, but one of many straws that broke the donkeys back.


This place is obviously no longer for paul, so good luck to him and his future endeavours.

[dannyhall04]

I actually agree with Smilley. Good job I'm already lying down.
Look at Paul's comments in the locked thread about the heavy bat he made;

So apparently I am now a con man who has no moral values or skills whatsoever and someone who is apparently arrogant and conceited because I am an ex player and try to offer advice.

All of which I don't think anyone said. Shame because he has a decent reputation but no-one - sponsor or otherwise - is beyond reproach and if they throw a wobbly and flounce as soon as they're questioned, then what can anyone really do about it?

[jblowe]

I am not surprised Paul; is upset.  he has taken a bit of stick in some recent threads.  Paul there are a lot of us who love you kit.