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Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« on: October 07, 2009, 08:47:51 AM »

Just found a video of Hawk bats being pitched against the Mongoose MMi

http://www.hawkcricket.com/News.cfm

Hawk bat hit the ball 78m

Mongoose MMi - 72m

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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2009, 08:50:10 AM »

That has already been posted somewhere mate.
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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2009, 09:17:02 AM »

looks very scientific in methodolgy!

surely its difficult to quantify a bats power as each one if different in terms of the wood used to make it, one Hawk bat maybe more powerful than the same model of X-bow perhaps and likewise for the mongoose due to the performance of the wood its made from.



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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2009, 09:19:29 AM »

Also the Mongoose was 1 new bat provided for the show, whereas the Hawk had been played in and was the players match bat which he used every game. The Mongoose he'd picked up for the first time and never swung it, with the 15% extra batspeed you get it can be difficult to time it the first couple of balls.
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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2009, 09:52:52 AM »

Also for his first shot he was only 6M off his Hawk and with a few hours of practice I think he could hit well past the 90M mark with the Mongoose!
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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 09:55:36 AM »

Couple of things I noticed and another one someone else did...

The willow crack on impact sounds the same on both bats, that said it is difficult to hear it well over the music.  It doesn't sound like the mongoose has that not knocked in sound.

The other thing that was noticed is the hawk hits a red ball and Mongoose hits a white ball


Finally the shots... The Hawk seems like it is hitting the ball in the middle area about 5-7inches from the toe. The mongoose looks like it is hitting the ball higher up on the shortened blade nearer the handle.  

The mongoose performs better, I think, if the ball is hit lower down the shortened blade as there is still a deadish area, regardless of splice, near the upper regions due to willow mass...  Also allows more MMOI but I suppose you can't ask the bowler to be nice to you!
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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 10:01:04 AM »

He is a pussy 78m with his own bat!
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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2009, 10:05:41 AM »

I agree not the most scientific way of doing a test. Even if everything is the same (ball speed and hardness, knocked-in/played-in bats, wind speed etc) you cannot rule out the human factor. The guy might try to hit the ball with the same power but he cannot be sure of doing so.

The reason why I posted this link was to basically see if it was the right / ethical way of advertising or proving a point (if Hawk wanted to do so).

Tom, can Mongoose not object to this video being put on Hawk website for advertising?
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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2009, 10:07:06 AM »

I don't think that it is an easy ball to put away, I think that the ball machine should have bee for a drive of some sort.
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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2009, 10:07:19 AM »

He is a pussy 78m with his own bat!

mate a 78m hit is good enough to clear the ropes on most cricket grounds across the globe (wherever cricket is played).

As long as it clear the rope it is immaterial whether it is a 78m hit or a 90m + hit
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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2009, 10:10:56 AM »

Just to carry on from Norbair that only mesure from where it lands not from where it ends up, also the ball hit by the Mongoose looks to have a lot more speed.
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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2009, 10:25:28 AM »

listen to the 2 sounds aswell the mongoose sounds fantastic, and he didnt middle it like he did off his own bat!
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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2009, 10:27:13 AM »

mate a 78m hit is good enough to clear the ropes on most cricket grounds across the globe (wherever cricket is played).

As long as it clear the rope it is immaterial whether it is a 78m hit or a 90m + hit
mate i am 6' and 17 stone 78m i know will clear most ropes but 100m+ looks a damn site better and also allows you to laugh at the bowler!
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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2009, 10:29:09 AM »

no so much didn't middle as it seems there wasn't enough blade there for the ball he faced and the shot he played
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Re: Mongoose MMi vs HAWK x-Bow
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2009, 10:32:42 AM »

I'm not 17 stone but 78m is just a meer flick off ones legs.
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