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WalkingWicket37

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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2014, 01:29:04 PM »

Shock horror! Practice makes you better? Who would have thought it?!
Stop being ridiculous!
We all know the only way to get better at batting is to buy more bats!
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2014, 01:34:04 PM »

And talking about bats and taking pictures of them and sleeping with them.....or is that only me?
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2014, 01:35:21 PM »

Stop being ridiculous!
We all know the only way to get better at batting is to buy more bats!

I think the dictionary needs changing.
Batting: the process of admiring and/or purchasing cricket bats.
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2014, 05:58:44 PM »

I'm a firm believer in training. Otherwise, why would all professional sports do it!

I know myself, as a self taught player that in three seasons I have gone from having never really picked a bat up 9or played cricket!) to where I am today. Purely by training and netting so much. I've not had coaching (a few pointers from people (one from nickauger) along the way), but generally just watching pro's, watching the masterclasses on tv and picking things up from watching other players.

I've gone from that to playing div 1 in northants and now playing what is basically div 4 in wepl. Now, I know I'm better than div 4 but it just happens to be the club I'm at. Is it talent? yes and no. I think it's more to do with confidence and training. I'm netting 3 times a week now and during the season I net about 4 times (not including games on wed, thur, sat and sun). This year I am aiming to hit 500 balls EVERYDAY. My stats are shooting up year on year and I expect another rise this year as I learn, improve and more importantly.. learn how to open!

on the subject of others.. last winter I helped a guy who was ok but that's it go from avg'ing 16 and not really regarded in his club as anything but a lower order slogger into someone who is arguably the clubs best batsmen.. all in one winter. Now, he had the talent and the eye but had never trained, had never had someone really help him.. a winter netting twice a week on the machine took him to over 1000 runs for the season and avg'ing 41... Now if that's not an advert for training then I dont' know what is.

People say 'you can't do everything on the machine'.. I disagree. Yes you should aim to do 'live' nets as well as it helps but if you spend your life on the machine you can become a decent player. It's much harder if someone is randomising the ball at 65/70 on teh machine than it is facing a live bowler at 75.. you have far less reaction time for a start.. plus, it's a darn site more accurate so the feeder can set you up.. spot a flaw.. etc etc  IT helps me pick up line and length so quickly that a county 2nds bowler just last night said 'my god you are hard to get out, unless I bowl where you want me too I'm wasting my time'.. that's purely machine training.. he's at 80 ish mph too which while not express is plenty fast enough for me thank you very much.

sum up... if you want to improve ... net    If you want to become consistent.... net

If you just want to turn up and see hwo it goes then stick as you are. Maybe you are just a superstar.. or maybe you are playing below your level so are getting away with it!
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2014, 06:11:15 PM »

I've only faced a machine once but could really see the benefit of doing so. I think it was set to be fairly consistent, but even so, it was relentless, so although you knew pretty much what you would be getting it made you concentrate a lot more.
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2014, 06:11:59 PM »

Netting should be enjoyable the vertues of netting have been talked and talked

Technical nets
Match situation nets
Fun nets
Equipment trying nets

Talking about what can be achived is all great but enjoyment is key.

I net as much as I can but the quality of nets always is better than quantity.

Adi you sure it not division 5-7 wepl mate great league are the top rungs of That league


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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2014, 06:23:55 PM »

Netting should be enjoyable the vertues of netting have been talked and talked

Technical nets
Match situation nets
Fun nets
Equipment trying nets

Talking about what can be achived is all great but enjoyment is key.

I net as much as I can but the quality of nets always is better than quantity.

Adi you sure it not division 5-7 wepl mate great league are the top rungs of That league

Prem 1
prem 2
glos/wilts
me

so effectively.. div 4. Am I missing some? (could well be tbh, I gave up trying to work out how they structure things tbh)

You are right on enjoyment and quality though. Both things are a must and you can have enjoyment, quality and quantity too. Hell, I'd go as far as to say that I enjoy my decent net sessions to a lot of the games tbh. Mainly cause I don't have some random idiot rabbiting on abusing me, I don't have inept wepl umpires firing people left right and centre and am obviously never out :)   oh and you don't have to field.. win win
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Re: Repeated netting is great for batsmen..?
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2014, 04:13:29 PM »

I'm a firm believer in training. Otherwise, why would all professional sports do it!

I know myself, as a self taught player that in three seasons I have gone from having never really picked a bat up 9or played cricket!) to where I am today. Purely by training and netting so much. I've not had coaching (a few pointers from people (one from nickauger) along the way), but generally just watching pro's, watching the masterclasses on tv and picking things up from watching other players.

I've gone from that to playing div 1 in northants and now playing what is basically div 4 in wepl. Now, I know I'm better than div 4 but it just happens to be the club I'm at. Is it talent? yes and no. I think it's more to do with confidence and training. I'm netting 3 times a week now and during the season I net about 4 times (not including games on wed, thur, sat and sun). This year I am aiming to hit 500 balls EVERYDAY. My stats are shooting up year on year and I expect another rise this year as I learn, improve and more importantly.. learn how to open!

on the subject of others.. last winter I helped a guy who was ok but that's it go from avg'ing 16 and not really regarded in his club as anything but a lower order slogger into someone who is arguably the clubs best batsmen.. all in one winter. Now, he had the talent and the eye but had never trained, had never had someone really help him.. a winter netting twice a week on the machine took him to over 1000 runs for the season and avg'ing 41... Now if that's not an advert for training then I dont' know what is.

People say 'you can't do everything on the machine'.. I disagree. Yes you should aim to do 'live' nets as well as it helps but if you spend your life on the machine you can become a decent player. It's much harder if someone is randomising the ball at 65/70 on teh machine than it is facing a live bowler at 75.. you have far less reaction time for a start.. plus, it's a darn site more accurate so the feeder can set you up.. spot a flaw.. etc etc  IT helps me pick up line and length so quickly that a county 2nds bowler just last night said 'my god you are hard to get out, unless I bowl where you want me too I'm wasting my time'.. that's purely machine training.. he's at 80 ish mph too which while not express is plenty fast enough for me thank you very much.

sum up... if you want to improve ... net    If you want to become consistent.... net

If you just want to turn up and see hwo it goes then stick as you are. Maybe you are just a superstar.. or maybe you are playing below your level so are getting away with it!

How are you going to find the time/money to hit 500 balls a day?! Do you own your own Bola and indoor net?
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Re: Repeated netting is great for batsmen..?
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2014, 04:24:11 PM »

How are you going to find the time/money to hit 500 balls a day?! Do you own your own Bola and indoor net?

Bola yes

I am currently constructing a indoor facility  to save me the cash :). It'll be built by the season so I can hit balls easily and at any time if day. It doesn't really cost that much, 2.5k for bola, balls and feeder and then just net costs. The main pain in the backside is the setting up etc
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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2014, 05:04:28 PM »

Whoever said 'the more I practice, the luckier I get' has a very good point.

At my peak I trained daily, and practiced as much as I could. I got the nickname 'fasteddie' for being so quick out the door when the word cricket was mentioned.

I'd love to net as much as some here. Even more now I've got some spare time!
Problem is that nets where I live are £40 per hour with another £30 for a machine.

That's a lot of money.

I don't envy, that's a negative emotion, but I tip my hat to anyone who get's their head down and practices lots. You deserve the stats and enjoyment.
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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2014, 05:30:08 PM »

Whoever said 'the more I practice, the luckier I get' has a very good point.

At my peak I trained daily, and practiced as much as I could. I got the nickname 'fasteddie' for being so quick out the door when the word cricket was mentioned.

I'd love to net as much as some here. Even more now I've got some spare time!
Problem is that nets where I live are £40 per hour with another £30 for a machine.

That's a lot of money.

I don't envy, that's a negative emotion, but I tip my hat to anyone who get's their head down and practices lots. You deserve the stats and enjoyment.

70 quid for an hours lane and machine?? Jesus that's expensive!
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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2014, 05:31:27 PM »

70 quid for an hours lane and machine?? Jesus that's expensive!
I thought I was being ripped off at £30!  :o
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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2014, 05:33:23 PM »

I thought I was being ripped off at £30!  :o

30 for both? For 60 mins ?

Or 30 for just the lane?
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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2014, 05:34:01 PM »

I thought I was being ripped off at £30!  :o

There is nothing local or within 45 mins drive cheaper.

Welcome to West Hampstead!

Looking forward to moving out of town in a few years.
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« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2014, 05:36:13 PM »

30 for both? For 60 mins ?

Or 30 for just the lane?
£30 for 60 minutes in the Lane and anyone can grab a bowling machine, so could be for just the net or for the net & machine depending on who else is there on the day.
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