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alee

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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2014, 07:03:08 AM »

Here in North America, personally what I think is that baseball players get the most money followed by NBA players, NFL players and NHL (ice hockey) players.
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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2014, 08:58:12 AM »

Average UK wage is £26,500 so first class cricketers do get above average. Still if you want to run 2 cars, mortgage and pay the bills/living expenses, it's not a huge amount without a second income. What can't be overlooked is counties have 12 month contracts and the player get's less down time in the winter. From what I've read it's basically Oct-Jan and then back to their county for indoor nets/tours etc. They perhaps have less chance to earn money abroad or coaching than they use to.

They might get free kit but on the other hand they spend a fair amount of time away from home. Unless it's all claimed back on expenses I suspect it would be more costly way of living ie. meals out etc
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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2014, 09:33:35 AM »

It is part of my theory i want to spend all my time with my family and kids and like i said i willing to drop 10k to do it and work in the industry but it has to be right I'm giving up a lot instant pension in 7 and a half years and so on.

What is money without happiness

My kids smile more with a hug than they do with buying them stuff.

Money is not my motive.

This makes me smile :)
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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2014, 09:34:39 AM »


They might get free kit but on the other hand they spend a fair amount of time away from home. Unless it's all claimed back on expenses I suspect it would be more costly way of living ie. meals out etc

Meals out are all claimed back or they are given a nightly rate to stay away depending on which county it is. Hotels are all setup and paid by the county. I'm pretty sure fuel can be claimed back too.

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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2014, 10:30:12 AM »

Here in North America, personally what I think is that baseball players get the most money followed by NBA players, NFL players and NHL (ice hockey) players.


Average salaries for the 4 major sports

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/10/average-career-earnings-nfl-nba-mlb-nhl-mls/

Premier league salaries are pretty comparable to NFL

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-average-premier-league-player-earns-30-124222362.html
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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2014, 10:41:37 AM »

Being a professional cricketer was never my dream working in the trade was from the time i went to romida at 12 years old in Newhay has been.

It is part of my theory i want to spend all my time with my family and kids and like i said i willing to drop 10k to do it and work in the industry but it has to be right I'm giving up a lot instant pension in 7 and a half years and so on.

But 10k is basically giving one car back and cutting down the pies to be honest..

I enjoy testing and messing with theory than i do playing i think.

What is money without happiness

My kids smile more with a hug than they do with buying them stuff.

Money is not my motive.

Cricketers are paid well the ones i know are they do not grumble and most do it because they love it..

Well said and agreed.
Much happier now I'm out of the City and spending more time with the family.
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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2014, 11:47:41 AM »

There was a really interesting piece on county salaries in light of the wage cap a couple of years ago in the Telegraph - not got time to sift through their online stuff to see if it is still there - but the gist was that there was significant variance between lower end squad players, who earned less than 30k, and the top guys - some, the ones cited including HArmison and Trescothick who had ceased to play internationally so were available the full season - were on more like eight times that base figure.
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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2014, 12:23:10 PM »

England / centrally contracted players:-

 - Central contract and county fees (£350,000+ for top players)
 - Share of England image rights, memorabilia sales etc
 - Test win bonus (£60,000 between squad)
 - Series win bonus (£500,000 between squad)
 - Sponsorship and endorsements
 
The wages of County players do vary - as has been said. The wage cap has seen to that, but at least it equalises everything - a bit. Counties are required to have a certain proportion of under 23s, etc. This actually helps them manage their wage bill, with this structure in place, you are looking at very experienced pro's on about £90k, e.g., Gareth Batty. There is also T&S and bonus payments, sponsorships, etc. Plus many County players make appearances through their County Boards at events, dinners, presentation nights, etc.

The bottom line is that they make a living, which as some have said, they supplement with coaching, playing abroad, possibly other jobs, etc. Does your average county pro get a wage that is decent for what they do? Probably not.

For younger players coming into the game, if they can make it and get paid for doing something they love, a 15, 16 or 17 year old, isn't going to be thinking about mortgages, kids, running a home, etc. Some, as we know, in cricket play whilst at Uni and so sow the seeds for their futures by doing so, as well as playing a role in the cricket development - there are some extremely good University cricket programmes out there, which are linked with County Boards.

The jobs market isn't fantastic as we know. Why wouldn't a kid with some ability and the parental support and backing not want to go into cricket? I honestly don't think a player who has the ability to play as a professional is thinking about salary, etc., at that stage of their career, so I don't think the comparisons being made are as simple a choice as that.     

Also, at the end of a player's career, the PCA do a tremendous job with placing players either in cricket related careers or in the outside world... One or two - Stefan Jones (fitness & coaching at Taunton School) & Robin Martin-Jenkins - have gone into teaching, using their cricket careers to good effect, so a career as a County pro can lead to other things. 
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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2014, 12:41:49 PM »

Well said and agreed.
Much happier now I'm out of the City and spending more time with the family.
That's my goal!
I'd become a journeyman pro tomorrow, I'd probably see my family more than I do now :D
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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2014, 12:44:29 PM »

TBH, I never made a huge amount of money in my brief spell in country 2nd XI cricket (And I know quite a lot of people who didn't also) BUT without cricket, I never would have got a place at Southampton University reading Business and Economics.

Unless you are a superstar (Top County, International), your yearly salary from cricket would be less than £35k. I remember speaking to Ed Giddings once and he said he had sold Christmas Trees over the winter to make ends meet! (However, that was 10-15 years ago... and lets be honest, his well-publicised drug problem probably increased his living costs somewhat!).

I think most cricketers playing regular county cricket are 'comfortable' but its the opportunities of playing, and the people you meet, that open doors for you.



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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2014, 12:56:34 PM »

Thats a very good point - the security and long term career options are a whole lot better than they used to be. 
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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2014, 01:22:50 PM »

so here's another question.. is it possible to have a full time career IN ADDITION to playing county cricket? could one work 9-5, practice at night, and play games on weekends?
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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2014, 01:28:44 PM »

no, because the games are not conveniently spaced accross weekends like they are int he club game!
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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2014, 01:42:08 PM »

ah of course.. they are held throughout the week? even if one can only work 4 out of 5 weekdays, it could be enough to sustain two jobs
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Re: first class salaries
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2014, 01:46:15 PM »

ah of course.. they are held throughout the week? even if one can only work 4 out of 5 weekdays, it could be enough to sustain two jobs
Those 4 day games starting on a Monday would reduce the time you could spend working another job I'd imagine...
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