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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #150 on: July 15, 2014, 09:57:34 AM »

I agree with Bumble, they don't want to use it, so don't. But let us use it, makes sense
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« Reply #151 on: July 15, 2014, 10:01:25 AM »

Wasn't the stance originally taken by ST and other senior players, who despite DRS doing them a favour in the World Cup decided they stood to lose out. More to do with the spinners coming worse off/bat pads being over turned/Indian batsman having to play with the bat more than the pad (which they have to anyway now thanks to Umpires using DRS). Might be more rumour that truth but I can't believe if Dhoni felt strongly enough they wouldn't use it.

If all the other countries refused to play them without DRS then they would eventually have to use it.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #152 on: July 15, 2014, 12:30:15 PM »

It isn't the Indian players who have decided not to use it though, it's the BCCI which might as well not be a cricket board the way they run things. People need to understand that the 11 players on the field aren't part of and don't represent their cricket board, they represent their country.

The BCCI being their employers?

Surely it's up to the Indian players/coaches? If they think it would be beneficial why would BCCI decline it from them?

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« Reply #153 on: July 15, 2014, 02:02:55 PM »

It also heaps more pressure onto the umpires. DRS is some ways is a get out for the umpires. They can make a poor decision with the best of intentions ie. plumb lbw that took an inside edge, and no harm done under DRS. In non-DRS land the players can also appeal more, knowing DRS won't overturn it. I didn't watch all of the test match but did the Indian's appeal more often?

To me one of the best reasons for DRS is the reduction in appealing and the pressure players put on the umpire. If they know it's never hitting or not close to the edge then they don't bother now, knowing full well DRS will overturn it .
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #154 on: July 15, 2014, 02:04:45 PM »


It also heaps more pressure onto the umpires. DRS is some ways is a get out for the umpires. They can make a poor decision with the best of intentions ie. plumb lbw that took an inside edge, and no harm done under DRS. In non-DRS land the players can also appeal more, knowing DRS won't overturn it. I didn't watch all of the test match but did the Indian's appeal more often?

To me one of the best reasons for DRS is the reduction in appealing and the pressure players put on the umpire. If they know it's never hitting or not close to the edge then they don't bother now, knowing full well DRS will overturn it .


The Indians appealed for everything, even when the ball clearly beat the bat.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #155 on: July 15, 2014, 02:29:09 PM »

Not supporting anybody on this though.. the accuracy rate of Umpires without DRS Quoted by ICC was Close to 96%. Then if the DRS accuracy rate is 98%, why would you want to pay the ridiculous amount of money to get some system which is not 100% proof? again there is clause that if the umpire gives not out for an LBW, then DRS shows that everything in Line but the Ball is just kissing one of the stumps then the umpires original decision is withheld, in this case whats the Use of DRS??? again not supporting BCCI on this, but this is just me???

Then again you have only 2 reviews...and you loose both of them that's it, any howlers after that you cant do anything. My only question would be the price point coz most it of the Cricket boards can't even afford unless playing against one of the rich cricket boards.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #156 on: July 15, 2014, 04:01:20 PM »

the quoted DRS rate is for all decisions in the game - the 2% will be ones that were got wrong on the field but either were not or could not be referred to the off field umpire.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #157 on: July 15, 2014, 04:56:14 PM »

Personally I support DRS, international players work really hard for the game and it really hurts when a wrong decision is given by the umpire...even if the margin of error is 2%
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #158 on: July 15, 2014, 05:14:17 PM »


I agree with you on the 2% mp07...for that matter i am in for DRS even if its .01%, My only concern is the implementation, would be great if its implemented without the consult of the country boards but again price factor comes in to picture. Was reading some article from wiki showing statistics of the DRS it was greatly useful in WC2011, since its a world event ICC can afford it, but when it comes to bilateral series, its a doubt. Why cant we get the more Simon Taufel's & D Sheppard s...
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #161 on: July 15, 2014, 05:27:47 PM »


http://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2014/media-releases/81007/james-anderson-charged-with-offence-under-iccs-code-of-conduct

Uh oh.

That could be bad for us and he got man of the match in the first test


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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #162 on: July 15, 2014, 05:28:15 PM »

Wait, does that say he has been charged with the offence by the Indian team manager  ???.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #163 on: July 15, 2014, 05:30:00 PM »


Wait, does that say he has been charged with the offence by the Indian team manager  ???.
Yes let's hope that Anderson didn't do anything


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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #164 on: July 15, 2014, 05:30:40 PM »

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