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[Gerry SA]

There are very few players in the world who average 50 in List A cricket.

Gary Ballance and James Taylor both average 50+

Therefore both are pretty decent or they are flogging around some terrible bowling.

For me they must be half decent, therefore both merit selection.

[Sam]

Career averages are hardly representative of whether someone should be selected here and now though are they...

They merit selection, its whether they can perform enough to warrant selection over already established players.

[TangoWhiskey]

I think the balance of this side is all wrong. Too many bits and pieces players to make either an effective batting unit or a bowling one.

Personally I would drop Woakes. I realise he just took a 4fa but I don't think he would get into the side for just his batting or his bowling. Jordan, again I would seriously consider dropping and sending off to sort out his issues. The potential is there but he isn't an international player yet.

For the balance of a one day side, you absolutely need to have a minimum of 3 full time bowlers. You need the majority of your overs to be bowled at <5 an over, and bits and pieces bowlers (your Roots, Ali's, Woakes, Stokes) are not more likely to achieve that ahead of Broad and Anderson. Finn is often expensive but he almost always takes wickets.

The nature of the batting order at the top with the exception of Hales all score at <80's, which contributes to England and their problem of getting bogged down in the middle overs. There needs to be more impetus at the top. Hales has shown all season at Notts that he likes time to get himself going and was perfectly complemented by Michael Lumb, who would often get a fast start allowing Hales time to bed in and go big.

My England side for the next ODI would be therefore:

Roy, who is a younger Lumb and could do the job for years.
Hales,
Cook (C),
Morgan,
Root,
Bopara,
Buttler,(+)
Stokes,
Tredwell,
Anderson,
Finn.

Even then there would be a lot of guys in that team fighting for their spot. I was really loathed to pick Tredwell, I think he is dump but there is literally no one else save Gareth Batty, could go with Moeen Ali I suppose. I picked Cook because I was being realistic. The ECB will not drop him unless he quits ODI's, though if they would I would bring in Ballance at three instead. Stokes needs to come up with the goods we saw in Australia sharpish and Morgan needs to prove to me that he is still good enough at this level. Bopara shouldn't have been dropped as he adds so much with bat and ball and the team should be built around Root as a rock at 5. 

For the World Cup, I would like to see much the same:

Roy,
Hales,
Cook (C),
Morgan,
Root,
Bopara,
Buttler,(+)
Broad,
Tredwell,
Anderson,
Finn.

Perhaps I would look to get Ali in there ahead of Tredwell, but if they don't see how Ali gets on as a bowler in this series then there isn't much chance of him getting in as a main spinner.
 

[Sam]

Still not entirely covinced Roy could do what he does in county cricket against international bowlers but I guess he's worth a go sometime.

[smilley792]

Cork makes a good point.

Why should bopara be in the England set up to bowl, if he doesn't bowl for Essex?

His batting didn't do much today either, Essex on for a beating,

[Sam]

In all fairness though the England team doesn't usually have 8 available bowling options

[potzy248]

Why is Lumb not in your team? He's not too old.
What an embarrassment that Cook is in there. Bell is ok he's pretty solid on his day and can destroy an attack. I'm sure it has been said before but what is England up to? Teams would be shaking in their boots if Lumb and Hales walked out to bat. Get Butler up the order too. Hales, Lumb, Root, Morgan and Butler is a fantastic top 5. If Butler is a great finisher then he's got the good to be up there order. I used to hate when NZ had McCullum down at 6 or 7 to finish the game, what a waste.
I'm frustrated, so I can imagine what England supporters are feeling.

[TangoWhiskey]

Why is Lumb not in your team? He's not too old.
What an embarrassment that Cook is in there. Bell is ok he's pretty solid on his day and can destroy an attack. I'm sure it has been said before but what is England up to? Teams would be shaking in their boots if Lumb and Hales walked out to bat. Get Butler up the order too. Hales, Lumb, Root, Morgan and Butler is a fantastic top 5. If Butler is a great finisher then he's got the good to be up there order. I used to hate when NZ had McCullum down at 6 or 7 to finish the game, what a waste.
I'm frustrated, so I can imagine what England supporters are feeling.

Lumb is in his 30's, Roy is 24. I quantified my selection by pointing out that the ECB aren't going to drop Cook, anything else is wishful thinking. At least my way they can shoe horn in some more talent.

[wayward_hayward]

The ODI team look more out of touch than ever. No team will fear there attack bar Hales, Buttler and maybe Anderson.

We need to use ODI's as the springboard for new England careers, get the likes of Roy, Taylor and even Rikki Clarke after tonights performance.

[Stuey]

I get that cook rode the storm in the tests and came back stronger for it, but ODIs is a different matter. He doesn't have the game for one day cricket and has to realise that. He is damaging the team by taking the spot of a more effective batsman.

[Gerry SA]

Why's Cook getting all the stick?

Ian Bell has 3 ODI hundreds in a 140 off games. That's pretty rubbish for a top order player.

[WalkingWicket37]

Why's Cook getting all the stick?

Ian Bell has 3 ODI hundreds in a 140 off games. That's pretty rubbish for a top order player.

He's statistically better than high class Faf in his games per hundred ratio!

[Kieron_BT]

Any room for Rikki Clarke or Napier?

[WalkingWicket37]

Any room for Rikki Clarke or Napier?

They're probably both too old to be considered now.
Rikki Clarke's chance has been & gone, and Napier's never selected for a squad for whatever reason.

[Sam]

Napier goes down on my list as one of the best players never to play an international game.