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[Kulli]

What a horribly flawed study, they could have at least used 5 'standard' shaped bats.

[tim2000s]

What a horribly flawed study, they could have at least used 5 'standard' shaped bats.

Couldn't agree more...

I'd love to get B3 to make a copy of a 1970's Scoop, a 1980's Powerspot, a 1990's Dynadrive and a 2004 Powerbow to the exact same weight and see what the modern manufacturing techniques actually did to these designs....

[pie-man]

this appears to be a load of ill researched waffle.

there is no menton of concaving vs conves shapes.

no mention of moisture content

the Asian, particularly the Pakistani bat makers were making overdried concaved lumps well before 2009.

some geek on here will know when the first Malik sher was released, the mid 90's or something

and that is before we start taking about changing techniques, range hitting, different weight training, flat dead pitches to induce hitting.

useless.

carry on!

I agree Buzz.  I appreciate its an article specifically on bats; which in itself suggests the should have researched all area's (as your mention).  However, the argument about it being more of a batsman's game and the increased ability to hit big must surely account for the fact that players now days have far more targeted training, both strength and skills.  IMO its not all down to the bats!

[Kulli]

I never realised till I visited cricinfo that this was commissioned by the ICC, it reads like some sort of 6th form project.

Given the circumstances (potential rule chances) you think they could have invested a big of cash to get someone like B3 to make copies of a fairly standard shaped bat from say each of the last 10 decades.

I really don't see how you can make a judgement on the future of the game based on a study that used the bats they did. Very odd.

[tim2000s]

I agree Buzz.  I appreciate its an article specifically on bats; which in itself suggests the should have researched all area's (as your mention).  However, the argument about it being more of a batsman's game and the increased ability to hit big must surely account for the fact that players now days have far more targeted training, both strength and skills.  IMO its not all down to the bats!

It's not, and while this is relevant, it's harder to test/police, however, if they were going to focus on the equipment used, they really should have done that properly.

[Beachcricket]

I don't know where to start on the article or the "study". Between the MCC and the Department of Bioengineering at Imperial College London they've produced something that's good for toilet paper.

Tim2000s - The claims of "fact" infuriate me and I always wonder, Where is the evidence?

[AverageCricketer]

The people who wrote this probably don't play cricket, who weighs bats in kg? They also chose the wrong bat in the nemesis as it is not a standard shape that is used by batsmen in all formats. It is a T20 bat that shouldn't be compared to older bats as the T20 was not played until about 10 years ago.

[Tom]

On the subject of this 2 further studies which some may be interested in:

The reliability of the tapping up test - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1saMLnJZq0fV3QxaXFlcDI1enM/edit?usp=sharing
Finding a finite element model for testing a cricket bat - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1saMLnJZq0fbTA2SHpRZ1VXV0E/edit?usp=sharing

[skip1973]

Wonder if they find the mysterious second middle?

[tim2000s]

On the subject of this 2 further studies which some may be interested in:

The reliability of the tapping up test - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1saMLnJZq0fV3QxaXFlcDI1enM/edit?usp=sharing
Finding a finite element model for testing a cricket bat - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1saMLnJZq0fbTA2SHpRZ1VXV0E/edit?usp=sharing

The first is quite amusing in that it is too small a sample to really count, but finds what we already know, in essence, some people are better at tapping up a bat than others....

The second is quite interesting, in that the work done to produce the report finds that experimental data shows a slightly different result from the initial FE model created and suggests that further work would need to be done to fine tune the FE model. For me what's most interesting is that the FE model would show roughly what the anticipated performance of the perfect bat would be and to apply this to different batmakers you'd have to adjust the model to take into account the various pressings that different makers do. Worth a read though.