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[ProCricketer1982]

And therein lies the rub.  If the result of using the "world's safest helmet" was a broken nose,  what would the result have been with a "less safe helmet"?

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No one knows if it's the safest though. That's just marketing speaking.

[Jenko]

I think its a bit hard to speculate what 'might' have happened with a different lid on. Ball went through the gap between visor and grill, so how much did the helmet really slow the ball down/deviate the impact? Have seen a video of someone getting pinged wearing an Ayrtek flush on the grill and it 100% did its job and did it well. But no matter what lid you wear if there is anyway of the ball getting in between the gap your going to be in trouble. It might be pot luck that he only ended up with a broken nose who knows.

[procricket]

For my two pence all i know is it kind of did it job like all helmets do.

It stopped a serious injury same as my Shrey has and Masuri and Albion in the past.

Conjecture about other helmets may or may not have done is wrong.

Look at it this way did the strength of the peak keep the ball under and not allow it pass??

With a masuri/Shrey old school it may have just bounced off after smashing the peak and no damage done a kind of strength, weakness if you get my drift.

Who knows all i do know is no helmet is 100 per cent safe and never will be.

I prefer one brand because i like how it fits onto my head and i'm used to it and i see no reason to change.

[tim2000s]

No one knows if it's the safest though. That's just marketing speaking.

Hence the use of quotes.

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[fasteddie]

When you consider all the different variables which have lined-up to cause this incident, it could be anything.
Defective grill, shell, nut, poor adjustment and set-up.

It would be unfair to point the finger at Ayrtek without the full facts.

Until such a time all we can do is post pictures of a giant panda, Gatting and Broad in a 'Police line-up' style mock-up.

Can it be 100% safe? Nope.

[Buzz]

For my two pence all i know is it kind of did it job like all helmets do.

It stopped a serious injury same as my Shrey has and Masuri and Albion in the past.

Conjecture about other helmets may or may not have done is wrong.

Look at it this way did the strength of the peak keep the ball under and not allow it pass??

With a masuri/Shrey old school it may have just bounced off after smashing the peak and no damage done a kind of strength, weakness if you get my drift.

Who knows all i do know is no helmet is 100 per cent safe and never will be.

I prefer one brand because i like how it fits onto my head and i'm used to it and i see no reason to change.

you say conjecture is wrong yet you go on and do just that!

past performance tells us old style Masuri lids would have resulted in a worse outcome.

we don't know with the new ones.

[roco]

Different pace roco

I didn't see kieswetters live is David willey quicker than Aaron?

As he is listed as fast medium but Aaron is fast from what I saw

[procricket]

you say conjecture is wrong yet you go on and do just that!

past performance tells us old style Masuri lids would have resulted in a worse outcome.

we don't know with the new ones.

So your the authority are you Buzz your making remarks about how other helmets would have done and this and that.

Past performance is conjecture mate like your saying as 1000 times more Old style Masuri have been used first time we have seen the Ayrtek tested out.

I'm not saying which is better mate but will not blindly stick up for product which claim one thing and deliver another.

How many Masuri have been used and how many Ayrtek of course there is design flaws but please don't make the Ayrtek to be all singing and dancing.

So my opinion is void i said no helmet will be 100 per cent safe just the way.

I was looking at buying a ayrtek last week still am

[Jenko]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnUMK5nlGmw

That to me is a helmet doing its job. As I say when the ball has the chance to go through a gap between grill and peak then it doesnt matter what you are wearing.

[Manormanic]

A ball can't pick up pace after hitting something.

And there speaks a man who has never seen Clayton Lambert bat. 

Of course it can - there will be a transference of force from the bat that can increase speed considerably.

[TangoWhiskey]

let's think about this more...

with an old style Masuri, it is reasonable to say he would have a fractured eye socket and his career may be over.

with a double bar vision series lid, the ball would have caused the visor to pop off, but who knows where the ball may have gone, with nothing to take the pace off, it may have had a similar result to the old model.
 

My understanding with the new style double bar is that the ball should deflect upwards off the double bar and into the peak which is designed to crumple upwards, therefore allowing the ball to travel upwards away from the face rather than channel it through the gap like what happened with Broad.

[Northern monkey]

Always horrendous seeing a player injured that way.
I would like to think the manufacturers are gonna use this to further improve the design and manufacture of cricket helmets.
I suppose compared to motorcycle helmets,the manufacturers are still in their infancy.
As with designing a helmet for motorcycle accidents,, cricket is also an incredibly dynamic environment
The aspect of top edges must be very hard to replicate and account for,, but I'm sure it's one area every manufacturer will hopefully focus on

I personally don't wear one whilst batting, but after watching Broadys and kieswetters accidents, I'm considering a helmet.

[GarrettJ]

The grill needs to protrude out wards and at an angle. Any top edge would hit and deflect upwards and away from the batsman

[smilley792]

Here's my input on this.


Broads helmet in the tweet shown seems to have both a very wide opening(compared to barkers in the video) and also seems to not be square, the gap between peak and grill on the right(broads left) looks wider than the right.


Now this could be for two reasons, and really only broad and or ayrtek can answer them. Is it a defective shell/grill? Or has Stuart altered the settings to give him a better view, not thinking the effect would be detrimental?


Also The two incidents show barker, and broad, there is a 2 mph difference in bowling speed. Which I personally don't think is the difference between fail and pass.

It is eithe down to faulty/badly adjusted helmet, or the increased speed of the top edge of broads.



As much as i rate the ayrtek, looking at woakes bat currently, the double grilled masuri, has such a small gap, and the added crumple zone, I can't help thinking the masuri may have faired better.

[mini998]

Shame , this is bad publicity for Ayrtek .

Personally I was toying with the idea of buying one due all the hype about great vision/protection  but only the look was putting me off all this time,

but now after this I started thinking all that hype could be just marketing .