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[smilley792]

Am I being thick if I ask how does a top edge increase the speed of a ball?

I would have thought it would change the flight of a projectile, and if anything, reduce with the friction?

Can't explain why but it does. Something today with kinetic energy transferred from the bat speed to the ball.


Bowl a bouncer, it will never go for six byes.
Yet even at my standard with 75mph or less bowling, top edges have flown for six.

[TopShot]

Same idea as when a batsman get a nick but plays with soft hands and the ball doesn't carry to the slips....but when a batman goes for a full blooded drive to a ball of the same speed and it flies through the slips like a rocket.

[tim2000s]

It all comes down to a bit of GCSE Physics. You are hitting the ball with a force, and in certain cases that will cause a positive acceleration and in others a negative. The friction on the edge of a bat is likely to be far lower than the impact force, especially when you consider a bouncer where the likelihood is that you will impart an amount of upward force (it doesn't have to be much) using a mass far greater than that of the ball. The resulting acceleration is normal.

[AndrewS]

To put some perspective on this, I'm a new customer and I've just put in an order for a PremierTek Titanium.

I...

• Have never worn a lid before
• Saw Broad get hit
• Much prefer cloth style helmets
• Grew up with Masuri and Albion and like the traditional style... I even like the new Masuri shape including peak (maybe the only person)
• Think the helmet shape might make my head look ridiculous... 

Yet I wasn't put off. I still went for it and that's down to the weight and positive reviews of the vision - that's what I care about most (assuming there are no problems with fit as I'm having to buy blind!)

From a safety perspective - perhaps naively, I view safety as a commodity in the world of helmets. Therefore I assume that all helmets, at the level I play will greatly reduce (not eliminate) the risk of injury.

Maybe I'm odd but this really didn't sway my decision at all.

[Vitas Cricket]

To put some perspective on this, I'm a new customer and I've just put in an order for a PremierTek Titanium.

I...

• Have never worn a lid before
• Saw Broad get hit
• Much prefer cloth style helmets
• Grew up with Masuri and Albion and like the traditional style... I even like the new Masuri shape including peak (maybe the only person)
• Think the helmet shape might make my head look ridiculous... 

Yet I wasn't put off. I still went for it and that's down to the weight and positive reviews of the vision - that's what I care about most (assuming there are no problems with fit as I'm having to buy blind!)

From a safety perspective - perhaps naively, I view safety as a commodity in the world of helmets. Therefore I assume that all helmets, at the level I play will greatly reduce (not eliminate) the risk of injury.

Maybe I'm odd but this really didn't sway my decision at all.

Will be on it's way to you shortly mate. #AdiLad

[Percy]

I may have missed it, but have we had, or has there been, an update from Tom on what caused the failure its been sometime now?

[trypewriter]

I think you have missed it - scroll back a couple of pages

[Percy]

I think you have missed it - scroll back a couple of pages

Thanks

[Ayrtek Cricket]

Going forward we have looked at the incident and the New BSI test standard and have taken the decision to reduce the gap between the peak at grille to a 45mm gap, this will hopefully reduce the chances further of the ball penetrating the peak and grille area.

The grille setting will only offer 1 fixed position as a result of this due to the BSI testing method that is used. Whilst we appreciate the fact that players want as good as wide a peripheral viewing outlook from the helmet as possible when wearing it we have to consider the safety aspect of this and the requirement to now pass a new safety standard.

By reducing the gap from 55mm to 45mm we think this will not significantly detract from the field of vision provided by the helmets when being worn.

[TangoWhiskey]

Out of interest, have you tested your helmets to failure or just to the BSI standards? Have the BSI standards changed since Broad's incident? If the helmet before passed the standard, it's obvious to me the standard isn't high enough.

[Ayrtek Cricket]

We tested the helmets to destruction at L'boro previously and the machine maxed out at 76mph via the air cannon. The helmets performed at this level with a 55mm gap as per YouTube clips previously posted. Using the same grille for repeated impacts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYLua0ocbe8&list=UU8a8f72gB7ZgkEfmt7WvyAA

The BSI standard requirement is at 63mph where you can opt to use a new grille for every impact (30 in total for each model). The issue is if Pro players at the Elite level are facing bowling at 90-95 mph the ball will still be traveling at 70-75mph at the time it reaches them (not factoring in a top edge).

All we can do from a manufacturers point of view is perform to the required BSI standard and use the research we have carried out independently to try and establish at what speed the helmets perform upto. The variable which is out of our control is the condition of the ball which will be different each and every time a incident occurs.

[MD2812]

Apologies if this is covered in another topic, in the World Cup Broad is using the Masuri, will we see Broad in the Aditek again?

[arsenal123]

Not exactly surprised.  If he's seeing a psychologist about it he probably wants to change as much as possible from that day, regardless of which helmet in particular offers the best protection.

Anyone else noticed people playing the short ball worse this winter or just me?  Seems to be some form of hangover from the numerous strikes and Hughes passing.

[Neon Cricket]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/31724806

In case anyone hasn't seen - not great news really! Hopefully he'll be back on form soon

[Percy]

Apologies if this is covered in another topic, in the World Cup Broad is using the Masuri, will we see Broad in the Aditek again?

I haven't seen a lot of the WC on TV but are any players using an Aditek? Seems Masuri and the trad styles seem to be dominating.