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[alexhilly1492]

just watching the 3rd odi vs India and i cant help thinking that this England side needs a revamp, not just in personnel but in tactics as well, this Indian side is young, energetic and vibrant with a good mix of older experienced players, this is what England must be after surely??

either that or go the other way with a side bursting with youth, some thing like this:

hales, roy, taylor*, root, ali, buttler, stokes, woakes, jordan, finn, gurney with a wider squad to choose from with some great young talent around the counties along the lines of alex lees, adam lyth, james vince, sam northeast, sam billings, adam ball, adam riley, scott borthwick, danny briggs

yes i can see how this isn't as greater talent as a lot of nations however with decent coaching staff and better support than the England side have at the moment surely this will give england a greater chance of winning silverware and series!!

[Gerry SA]

England's problem is they can't play spin for toffee.

They are unable to rotate the strike or hit boundaries to counter the spinners.

Changing the whole team won't solve that.

[alexhilly1492]

spin is an issue and this current group of players have the media all over them for it, start from scratch and work on it, the lions had a succesful tour to sri lanka last winter and could play spin then!

the world cup in aus/nz wont be played on spinning wickets and so wont be a massive issue, its the older players are letting the side down as was shown in the test series, new players, new attitude, new start!!

[Sam]

The ideal selection view to me would look something like

Hales - Deserves to keep his place.
Vince/Roy
Bell - Class player, think with less pressure he could be valuable in the side and keep some experience.
Taylor - Deserves a spot in the side sometime soon I think.
Root/Ballance
Buttler
Bopara - Needs to be in.
Woakes
Tredwell - Has convinced me recently, originally had him out.
Anderson - Not for the death
Finn

Roy/Vince - Roys more of a hard hitter who pays off sometimes whereas Vince is more of a technique player who still scores at a quick rate.
Morgan - Dropped out of form but still the potential to come off.
Ballance - Want to get him in the side but simply can't.
Bairstow - Going well in the lions, probably deserves a reserve keeper spot if we need one.
Stokes - Out of form, probably needs a bit more county time right now. Still not too sure about him personally.
Jordan - Needs a bit of coaching on his action and run up.
Briggs - Good T20 season, yet again, probably deserves another look in (from a Hants fan point of view however)
Ali - Potential 4th/5th backup bower for Bopara/Tredwell
Gurney - Valuable left arm seamer, bit inexperienced however and  was a surprise pick for me when he first came onto the scene.
Plunkett - Could potentially be useful on Aussie pitches.

We need to keep at least a bit of experience still in there I think.

All my opinion of course.

[SOULMAN1012]

Said it before and will say again Sam Billings must be close to getting a look. Butler not exactly setting the world alight and average keeper from what I've seen.

[Gerry SA]

The key difference between England and India, is the same what hinders India in Test cricket.

Indian players are brought up on slow pitches, therefore they are taught to attack in all forms of cricket. Therefore they go after the bowling in all formats. This leads to their demise in Test cricket eg they don't know how to defence their wickets.

Whereas England are brought up on pitched offering swing/seam/bounce therefore it's difficult to just pin the ears back and have a dart.

But England do seem to be brought up with the notion of preserving their wicket. As if you watch Australia/New Zealand/South Africa they are also brought up on wickets that offer something for bowlers, yet they are taught to attack the bowlers.

England are far too tentative to attack. Even bad balls, in ODIs, seem to go unpunished.

Whether England have dynamic players like the leading ODI teams is unknown, but players like Cook and Bell should be axed. Senior players whom are hindering rather than inspiring.

[Giraffe208]

The majority of the England team live their careers with failure in mind. They play with the 'Need to avoid failure' attitude rather than a 'Need to achieve' attitude. Now some of you may think this is the same approach but it definitely isn't. How often do you see them take calculated risks? Very few! They have no confidence in themselves and unfortunately while some members of the team are still in the squad they will sour the introduction of others.

Something needs to change and fast!

[Sam]

Said it before and will say again Sam Billings must be close to getting a look. Butler not exactly setting the world alight and average keeper from what I've seen.

Highly doubt Billings is anywhere near it personally.

Gerry : I still personally think Bell should stay in, fair enough drop Cook, but Bell with the removal of all the current pressure would be allowed to bat more freely again, as happened at T20 finals day where he looked class (expect that chip off Flintoff  ).

[ProCricketer1982]

Bring bk our best one day player #BlameKP

[skip1973]

England have always been behind the times in ODI's, I read recently about Vaughn criticising Cook, he forgot about how much he cried when they removed him, his ODI record was abysmal. Too many bit's and pieces players, have a solid player like bell for attacking batsmen to play around. I don't think they can carry cook.

[iand123]

Billings is a fair bit away (which is a shame). Think he'd get a place on the EPP program this winter as think lions might be a bit too far right now

Are England behind the times or just not very good?

[smilley792]

One person definitely needed in this side is Taylor.  Is 50 over form us ridiculous. 

Commentators keep saying that if the lions played the England 1st xi it would be close.
I disagree. The lions would destroy them like India are.

[smilley792]

Taylor and Roy in the t20 squad. It's a start? 

[WalkingWicket37]

Taylor and Roy in the t20 squad. It's a start?

Will do them good carrying the drinks for the England no hopers!

[thegowerwaft]

Just read this tweet from Luke Wright:

''Disappointed I'm not in after scoring over 600 runs at end of group stage but that's life. Delighted 4 @JasonRoy20 & @jamestaylor20 congrats''

He certainly scored runs this year.  Has his time gone?

Nice to see him congratulate Roy and Taylor.