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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2014, 08:25:00 PM »

Unfortunately for our viewing displeasure, More Tests have to be played on these pitches if any team is to be a chance of beating Pakistan at home. I'm sure the Pakistanis have the same feeling when fronted with a Gabba greentop.
I foresee for the next few years a lot of teams being very tough to beat at home but not travel well as the "great" teams (Aussies from '98-05 and the Windies in the 70's and 80's) are a once in a generation team.
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2014, 09:16:47 PM »

Not really. Better spinners in Pakistan I'll give them that. Lyon and the other guy are woeful. Much like our Kiwi spinners.

I just think "unsporting" would only be applicable if BOTH teams were piling on the runs. NZ can do it, but the fact that the Aussies just couldn't handle it, means that the wickets were sporting enough. It was a thoroughly one-sided affair. And so BY DEFINITION, the conditions were sporting, in that it wasn't all fun for the batsmen.
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2014, 10:29:11 PM »

I just think "unsporting" would only be applicable if BOTH teams were piling on the runs. NZ can do it, but the fact that the Aussies just couldn't handle it, means that the wickets were sporting enough. It was a thoroughly one-sided affair. And so BY DEFINITION, the conditions were sporting, in that it wasn't all fun for the batsmen.

Fair point.
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2014, 02:09:59 AM »

Here's the link to a video of Shezad getting hit

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/pakistan-v-new-zealand-first-test-day-two/2014-11-11

This doesn't look right at all....ball seems to hit him near the gap between peak and grill around the cheekbone area. Really shouldn't be getting a fractured skull from that kind of impact but clearly it happened. The helmet must have transferred the force of the impact directly into the skull. If this is the case then that is clearly a failure by the helmet. Especially seeing as Corey Anderson is not exactly express pace. No excuse for something like this in my opinion.
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2014, 06:26:48 AM »

Here's the link to a video of Shezad getting hit

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/pakistan-v-new-zealand-first-test-day-two/2014-11-11

This doesn't look right at all....ball seems to hit him near the gap between peak and grill around the cheekbone area. Really shouldn't be getting a fractured skull from that kind of impact but clearly it happened. The helmet must have transferred the force of the impact directly into the skull. If this is the case then that is clearly a failure by the helmet. Especially seeing as Corey Anderson is not exactly express pace. No excuse for something like this in my opinion.

The ball deflects from the front of the helmet and hits him on the back of the head as well. Could be that .....
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2014, 06:56:10 AM »

Noooooo Williamson our great player of spin.

Oh well might as well start getting ready to follow on.
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2014, 01:30:43 PM »

No follow-on.

Pacer Rahat takes 4 wickets.
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2014, 02:38:15 PM »

No follow-on.

Pacer Rahat takes 4 wickets.
On a dead wicket? Watched the highlights last night kiwi fielding was atrocious.  Lots of dropped catches
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2014, 03:10:05 PM »

^ This newbie got game.  :D
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2014, 08:45:29 AM »

I'm no Pakistan fan but got to say I've been really impressed by how they have played recently.

This was all done on flat pitches, where people said you couldn't bowl a team out.

I hope they build from this and not get to carried away, (or should I say the fans expectations...)

Well done Pakistan!

It's interesting to see that Asian teams have the patience & technique to bat long periods on these pitches. Yet top players from the Southern Hemisphere can't seem to bat long periods at all. It's almost like many don't trust their technique to defend or rotate the strike..

 


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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2014, 11:24:28 AM »

Every match in the middle East is pretty much decided by the toss.

PAK vs SA. Both sides batted first in the Test that they won the toss. They dominated those respective matches.

Pak won both matches against Australia after batting first in both matches.

Against PAK piled the runs on against nz after winning the toss and batting first.

Pakistan are very ordinary. You know the conditions are rubbish when mediocre players like Misbah, Ali, Shahzed etc are racking up 100s for fun. 
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2014, 11:27:47 AM »

You know the conditions are rubbish when mediocre players like Misbah, Ali, Shahzed etc are racking up 100s for fun.

It's more the fact that Hafeez is scoring runs! Also it's a showing of their craft (and the fact that you can hang on the front foot out there) that Shahzad got hit by Corey Anderson bowling on a featherbed!
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2014, 11:35:51 AM »

Its been really good to see the patience displayed by Pakistan in the last few tests. I know its not the most exciting but id personally love it if my team (Australia) could have shown even the slightest bit of this when they batted.   
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2014, 11:38:51 AM »

Its been really good to see the patience displayed by Pakistan in the last few tests. I know its not the most exciting but id personally love it if my team (Australia) could have shown even the slightest bit of this when they batted.
Let's see what happens when the Pakistanis go to Australia and bat on pitches with pace abc bounce...

Pakistan are a spineless team. They'll fold like a deck of cards.
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Re: Pakistan Vs NZ
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2014, 11:44:57 AM »

Hafeez reported for chucking. Ban all chuckers for life.
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