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[Sam]

Mic'ing up the cpt and batsmen is the way forward, should happen in odi's as quick as possible and probably tests too. Have all batsmen mic's up and a few fielders too

Correct me if I'm wrong but have we actually found a modern technology cricket use that was actually started being used in cricket over here  . Quite sure sky were doing it in county cricket first. Now there's a shocker!

[ProCricketer1982]

Correct me if I'm wrong but have we actually found a modern technology cricket use that was actually started being used in cricket over here  . Quite sure sky were doing it in county cricket first. Now there's a shocker!

Did they?? I didn't think sky showed more than the very very random county game. Every game should be streamed live like the Aussie stuff

[Sam]

Did they?? I didn't think sky showed more than the very very random county game. Every game should be streamed live like the Aussie stuff

Quite sure this summer sky did a t20 game nearly every friday night. Can't remember if they did this year but they used to mic up a player on each team.

[ProCricketer1982]

Quite sure this summer sky did a t20 game nearly every friday night. Can't remember if they did this year but they used to mic up a player on each team.

Yeah I know they did some in the t20. You said county crixket so I assumed you meant the proper stuff

[smilley792]

Until they get there head out of there a holes, and go franchises. Itll all be county stuff.


And last year, they had probably 2 out of 3 Friday's on telly, if there was a test match on, an odi, or a gust of wind, it was an excuse not to show.

To say there was 9, games a weekend, plus finals day, over 11 weeks, that's 93 games. Of which sky showed 9 games lives. 9 games!

Ipl and bigbash they show every game live. Some thing wrong there? But then england behind the times is the norm at mo.



Back to big bash, very bad weather in Melbourne, thunderstorms of great magnitude, and the game goes on, how good is a roofed cricket stadium! I know we had one game in the millennium stadium, probably about time, that more were organised there for a guaranteed completed game.

[ProCricketer1982]

Agree to the stadium.. Roofed venues are the future?

It would make tests not dependant on the weather too which is good news

[Sam]

Until they get there head out of there a holes, and go franchises. Itll all be county stuff.


And last year, they had probably 2 out of 3 Friday's on telly, if there was a test match on, an odi, or a gust of wind, it was an excuse not to show.

To say there was 9, games a weekend, plus finals day, over 11 weeks, that's 93 games. Of which sky showed 9 games lives. 9 games!

Ipl and bigbash they show every game live. Some thing wrong there? But then england behind the times is the norm at mo.



Back to big bash, very bad weather in Melbourne, thunderstorms of great magnitude, and the game goes on, how good is a roofed cricket stadium! I know we had one game in the millennium stadium, probably about time, that more were organised there for a guaranteed completed game.

Problem is franchises would kill the remaining counties not getting an income from it.

Problem here is if you don't have enough viewers for them to televise them initially, do you really think running them alongside international matches is going to be worthwhile?

There is also the OD games that were televised.

[Stuey]

I missed the start of the Heat v Strikers, why was Flintoff not playing? He's great on commentary though.
Also the ECB could learn a thing or 2 from how CA run the big bash, great comp.

[smilley792]

Problem is franchises would kill the remaining counties not getting an income from it.

Problem here is if you don't have enough viewers for them to televise them initially, do you really think running them alongside international matches is going to be worthwhile?

There is also the OD games that were televised.

No franchise is affiliated with a county, they merely use there grounds(unless other grounds can be utilised I.e millennium stadium, etc)
All money goes into pot, and the divided equal between all counties to pay for the loan if players, & close of there season while tournament run.


Indian, Australian haven't seen a sudden folding off first class sides due to a franchised t20 tournament. Why do you think england will suddenly see them all fold?


As for televised, test finish at 6-6.30. T20 starts at 6.30 to 7. So no over lapping. People watch both.

[Sam]

Because they have 1.3bn supporters in India's case and in Australia's case because they have only 6 fc sides.

[smilley792]

We don't have 1.3billion supporters.  And we have 18 fc sides.


We are never gonna have 1.3billion supporters either, but we can have less fc sides.

Can't remember which but one of the west Indian commentators this summer says more first class sides dissolve the player pool and create lesser players.
All sides having 2 or 3 good enough doesn't make for a demanding league and players play against mediocre opposition Weeke in and out and become mediocre.

Have half the teams. And all teams have 9/10 great players the competition is strong week in week out and players kick on and improve if good enough. 


The fact that england take there internationals from mot divisions, not just one, shows the split league system hasn't worked to correct this.



Too many teams imo. Probably never change though. So for now I just have to watch the ipl and big bash and dream out domestic tournament will one day be as good as there's are. Because currently. It is not.



Not sure why flintoff was dropped. And can't seem to find anything mentioning it. Maybe he needed a rest? He didn't seem disgruntled regarding in commentary. 

[Sam]

Quite sure making over 100 cricketers (approaching 200 probably), 9 businesses and 9  sports grounds practically redundant will have some quite large legal and financial requirements though.

There's also the fact that in for example Australia they have much more focused populations (conveniently in cities with teams...) where as over here it is wider spread.

[smilley792]

Always red tape in everything. And you are right. Be very harsh to just say bye to 9 teams and it's players.

But there is a way.


Merely stop bailing out the ones that can't run at a profit until 9 are left..........

[Sam]

Yorkshire
Durham
Glamorgan
Warwickshire
Essex
Hampshire
Kent
Lancashire
Leicestershire

According to the telegraph those are the counties who made a loss in the 2012 season (latest I could find) and ironically 6/9 of them are test grounds. Warwickshire, Lancashire and Durham were bailed out the most by the ECB.

[smilley792]

An insight into the mess that is our cricketing set up. Whatever happens.  I dobtt staying the same will work for the good