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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2015, 09:56:06 AM »

I do worry about the bowling line up with Broad, Finn and Jordan their economy rates are a worry.

The amount of wides bowled by Jordan just isn't good enough for international cricket
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2015, 11:23:33 AM »

Still don't think we know what our bowling plans are! Are we trying to get wickets to restrict runs or bowling to contain.
Having watched the SA game yesterday it is obvious in todays game that quality pace off bowlers are vital. I couldn't believe Du Plessis bowled Abbot penultimate over when the left arm spinner was left stranded with only 3 overs completed with one of the lowest economy rates. With the field out, make the batsmen generate the pace and mistakes will come.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2015, 11:25:00 AM »

As a result id love to see someone like Rashid or even someone outside the box like Jigger Naik at Leics get a chance.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2015, 08:12:00 PM »

feel sorry for hales. As buzz said when he was on the top of his game he should have been given a chance in the ODI side. Do get a feeling he'll be messed about and sent back to county cricket and back into the side numerous times over the next few years.

Interesting to see how tredwell goes in aus after the Aussies targeted him in the one Sayers this time last year.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2015, 09:22:15 PM »

What the hell is the point axing the misfiring opener(Cook) and then replacing him with another similar style player(Bell)?

Hales, I'm not a fan, but he give it a decent slog when he clicks. If Bell bats 50 overs its still likely England will only get a par score. If Hales clicks England would win.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2015, 09:40:51 PM »

I personally wish they'd have let Hales continue in the BBL until the first match at least, would have helped him a lot more than sitting on the sidelines like at the moment. To be honest at least Bell does have the ability to turn it up a bit when he gets going and has actually been scoring runs in the position unlike Cook. Cook just looked unable to do much more than grounded shots most of the time, and even then he wasn't getting the scores.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2015, 09:52:16 PM »

I personally wish they'd have let Hales continue in the BBL until the first match at least, would have helped him a lot more than sitting on the sidelines like at the moment. To be honest at least Bell does have the ability to turn it up a bit when he gets going and has actually been scoring runs in the position unlike Cook. Cook just looked unable to do much more than grounded shots most of the time, and even then he wasn't getting the scores.
Look at the openers from Australia(Warner & Finch), India(Rohit & Dhawan) and South Africa(Amla & de Kock) all of them sides will be going from ball one from both ends.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2015, 10:11:58 PM »

Look at the openers from Australia(Warner & Finch), India(Rohit & Dhawan) and South Africa(Amla & de Kock) all of them sides will be going from ball one from both ends.

If Bell can tick over at nearly a run a ball while Ali gets going at the other end I don't personally have much of a problem with it. It's not like Hales was an instant hitter anyway, always took a bit of time to see himself in.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2015, 12:32:23 AM »

Look at the openers from Australia(Warner & Finch), India(Rohit & Dhawan) and South Africa(Amla & de Kock) all of them sides will be going from ball one from both ends.

Amla is not exactly a big hitter from ball 1. He rotates strike and plays a long and deep inning. It is Quentin De Kock who hits from ball 1. I think this is the thought behind a Bell and Ali combination: one will rotate strike and play a deep and long inning while other will hit big. Hales takes his  warm-up time before he starts hitting big.

Finch also rotates strike before going big, it is Warner who starts hitting (mentally and spiritually) before the first ball is even delivered!

Also, the oppositions will be prepared for all these big time openers. They will bowl to cramp them up. Let's face it: we may not see a lot of fireworks by these openers as they are known entities to the opposition bowlers. If I were a coach for one of these non-tri-series playing teams, I would be taking a lot of notes.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2015, 06:48:44 AM »

Bell on 166* last time I looked. Taylor and Ali 50s


England looking like touching 400!
No idea condition of pitch.  But berendorf and Cummins bowled well in big bash. And maxwell is aus first choice odi spinner at mo!


Too optimistic?
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2015, 07:53:43 AM »

It is bizarre that Bell plays so well as an opener and loses it when he's at 3 in ODIs, don't mind him opening as long as it continues though!
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2015, 08:04:56 AM »

bell can do a job now AC is not in the team, you(we) need a mix of power and strokeplayers

I actually quite like bell and moheen for the pitches in Australia,both have good techniques(is there a better one than Ian Bell?) and we have some thumpers down the order

I know these are just warm up games but England are slowly grasping that we need to hit 300
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2015, 09:08:13 AM »

Jordan seems to have gone off the end of a cliff - I'm sure in his last few ODI's game, he's been battered.

Aussie rattling along at quite a rate in reply!

Time for King Ravi and the Beard that's Feared to run through them.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2015, 09:16:28 AM »

Glenn Maxwell finally finds some form blasts a hundred of 68 balls.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2015, 09:18:41 AM »

Jordan seems to have gone off the end of a cliff - I'm sure in his last few ODI's game, he's been battered.

Aussie rattling along at quite a rate in reply!

Time for King Ravi and the Beard that's Feared to run through them.

Jordan's three overs have cost 40 runs that's just not good enough.  I do worry about the run rates conceded by our bowlers. Don't think our batters will be able to chase 300+ regularly
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