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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1050 on: March 21, 2015, 08:43:33 AM »

New Zealand looking unstoppable at the moment! Guptill and Boult on fire! Neither considered to be elite world class cricketers by many though, which I find interesting...

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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1051 on: March 21, 2015, 08:47:31 AM »

It demonstrates quite how terrible England are .

What was also noticeable was the WI run rate was bonkers
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1052 on: March 21, 2015, 08:50:06 AM »

What was also noticeable was the WI run rate was bonkers
they went down fighting alright.

got to spare a thought for young Holder.

Narine and Ajmal would have made it an even interesting world cup.
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1053 on: March 21, 2015, 08:55:36 AM »

Yep I think Narine would have made a massive difference to the WI attack.

The run rate was crazy but one thing I would say is the Cake Tin really is a rugby ground and is ridiculously difficult to defend especially with only 4 allowed out.
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1054 on: March 21, 2015, 09:00:26 AM »

Costly drop by samules 3rd ball, might have been a different game.
If only West Indies had a death bowler...oh wait Clive Lloyd didn't select him.

Interesting to see how NZ go in pitches in Australia. All well and good smashing sides on small grounds.

Finally we get to see some proper cricket matches in the semi's. The group stages and QF's have been one sided
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1055 on: March 21, 2015, 09:04:44 AM »

Costly drop by samules 3rd ball, might have been a different game.
If only West Indies had a death bowler...oh wait Clive Lloyd didn't select him.

Interesting to see how NZ go in pitches in Australia. All well and good smashing sides on small grounds.

Finally we get to see some proper cricket matches in the semi's. The group stages and QF's have been one sided

NZ v SA semi is in Auckland so they won't have to worry about playing in AUS till possibly the final at the MCG
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1056 on: March 21, 2015, 09:20:38 AM »

NZ v SA semi is in Auckland so they won't have to worry about playing in AUS till possibly the final at the MCG

Thanks for clearing that one up
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1057 on: March 21, 2015, 01:26:23 PM »

Another highest world Cup innings at the same world Cup. These kiwi grounds are too small to take seriously.... And yet England struggle terribly.

As you say buzz, shows just how bad England are.


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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1058 on: March 21, 2015, 04:13:01 PM »

Another highest world Cup innings at the same world Cup. These kiwi grounds are too small to take seriously.... And yet England struggle terribly.

As you say buzz, shows just how bad England are.


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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1059 on: March 21, 2015, 06:55:29 PM »

Another highest world Cup innings at the same world Cup. These kiwi grounds are too small to take seriously.... And yet England struggle terribly.

As you say buzz, shows just how bad England are.


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Small sideways at Wellington, pretty long straight though. That 6 Guptil hit on the roof would've been huge on any ground. I hate people who have a go at our small grounds, you still need to bat well.

SA scored 400 in Aussie too.
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1060 on: March 21, 2015, 07:04:25 PM »

Problem with the westpac was it is mostly a rugby stadium, go the hurricanes. As are all of the NZ Stadiums, playing card shape. Aussie Rules play on an oval. However, as with any ground it is the same for both teams.
Had an afternoon with the rugby. If England needed to have a +5 point margin they would have been +4. Why Do we/they always fall short . Great effort guys just not quite enough.
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1061 on: March 21, 2015, 07:04:48 PM »

Never understood this small ground malarkey.

All teams have to bat and bowl on the same pitch. So both have just as good a chance regardless.

Don't want to constantly get hit for six. Bowl better.
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1062 on: March 21, 2015, 10:49:09 PM »

When is too much of a good thing really too much?

Got some stats (baring in mind the 1975, 1979 and 1983 World Cups where 60 0vers. And 1987 was the first 50 over World Cup). Stats are offset in the knowledge the first 4 World Cups where more like 1 day Test matches. Obviously as ODI cricket became more marketable the number of matches at the World Cup increased.

1975 - 6 individual 100s, only 1 x 150+ score(Glenn Turner 171*).

1979 - 2 individual 100s, 0 x 150+ scores 

1983 - 8 individual 100s, only 1 x 150+ score(Kapil Dev 175*).

1987 - 11 individual 100s, only 1 x 150+ score(IVA Richards 181*).

1992 - 8 individual 100s, 0 x 150+ scores.

1996 - 16 individual 100s, 2 x 150+ scores(Gary Kirsten 188* and Andrew Hudson 161).

1999 - 11 individual 100s, 1 x 150+ score(Sourav Ganguly 183).

2003 - 21 individual 100s, 2 x 150+ scores(Craig Wishart 172* and Sachin Tendulkar 152).

2007 - 20 individual 100s, 2 x 150+ scores(Imran Nazir 160 and Matthew Hayden 158).

2011 - 24 individual 100s, 2 x 150+ scores(Virender Sehwag 175 and Andrew Strauss 158)

2015(ONGOING) - 37 individual 100s, 7 x 150+ scores(Martin Guptill 237*, Chris Gayle 215, David Warner 178, AB de Villiers 162*, TM Dilshan 161*, Hashim Amla 159 and Kyle Coetzer 156).

In the previous 10 World Cups there was a combined 12 x 150+ scores. Yet in the ongoing World Cup it's like happy hour for the batsmen...alrwady 7 x 150+ scores....

When will the scales go in favour of the bowlers?



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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1063 on: March 22, 2015, 12:20:54 AM »

Good post Gerry.  I recon 4 outside the ring is too skewed, 5 out is more reasonable, thats the change id make.  I think 2020 has made a massive difference to players understanding of what is actually possible.
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #1064 on: March 22, 2015, 02:46:32 PM »

Apologies if this has been said in the thread before ... but 2 new balls will definitely make the ball go further, and may reduce the number of spinners, though the pitches will be a factor too
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