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[Gerry SA]

Getting a couple of 6fers in ODIs hardly indicates Woakes is anything other than ordinary. Woakes often gets slapped around then picks up cheap wickets at the end of the innings when batsmen are slogging.

Look at the best ODI bowlers in recent times Brett Lee, Shane Bond, Mitchell Starc etc they actually get batsmen out.

[Buzz]

not sure anyone is comparing Woakes to Lee, Bond Starc etc...!

how about picking on other teams rather than our mediocre team for a change!!

[Gerry SA]

not sure anyone is comparing Woakes to Lee, Bond Starc etc...!

how about picking on other teams rather than our mediocre team for a change!!

Could target India, but not enough time in the day once I'd get started...

[Sam]

Look at the best ODI bowlers in recent times Brett Lee, Shane Bond, Mitchell Starc etc they actually get batsmen out.

Just thought I'd point out that 65% of Starcs wickets come from the top 6 compared to 69% of Woakes' wickets and they have a similar rate of getting batsman out when set and presumably starting to tune up with 18% and 19% of their wickets coming when a batsman has passed 40. Just a few interesting stats, not suggesting they show anything conclusive.

[Gerry SA]

Just thought I'd point out that 65% of Starcs wickets come from the top 6 compared to 69% of Woakes' wickets and they have a similar rate of getting batsman out when set and presumably starting to tune up with 18% and 19% of their wickets coming when a batsman has passed 40. Just a few interesting stats, not suggesting they show anything conclusive.

Woakes could still get top order wickets when getting slapped around. If the opposition are only 2/3 down heading into the last 10 overs, then yes Woakes is still getting the top order out...

[Sam]

However if the opposititon are only 2 down going into the last 10 you would expect the vast majority of the time for the currently in batsmen to be relatively well set.

[smilley792]

Woakes could still get top order wickets when getting slapped around. If the opposition are only 2/3 down heading into the last 10 overs, then yes Woakes is still getting the top order out...

Out of his last 15 odi wickets, only 3 came in the overs 40-50. Of which zero were top order batsman.

[Gerry SA]

However if the opposititon are only 2 down going into the last 10 you would expect the vast majority of the time for the currently in batsmen to be relatively well set.

The in batsmen correctly would be set, but the new guys walking in swinging from the hip wouldn't be.

[Sam]

The in batsmen correctly would be set, but the new guys walking in swinging from the hip wouldn't be.

Which would result in Woakes getting a noticeably higher amount of wickets when batsman are under 40 runs surely?

[csnew]

Watched a bit of this warm up. Thought it was pretty pointless for both teams playing on a green top. Not going to get many Green tops this World Cup.
The Aussies pulling another fast one.

Even bopara was getting the ball to move.

[cheese]

Lets hope SA don't choke in this tournament!

[ProCricketer1982]

yeah, england won.. wooo, they are awesome, they've got really good.. gonna win the WC.. wooo


Oh wait, they beat one of the worst sides around currently in a meaningless game... oh well.. wooooo Engl won.. wooooo

[Gerry SA]

Lets hope SA don't choke in this tournament!

Whether that happens or not, we'll be happy in the knowledge we are better than England #YoureWelcome

[WalkingWicket37]

Whether that happens or not, we'll be happy in the knowledge we are better than England #YoureWelcome

Couldn't you focus on being better than a decent team like Ireland or Bangladesh?

You secretly love the English, don't you!

[InternalTraining]

Good teams will use these warm up games to finalize their tactics and build confidence. Windies did a brave thing by batting first but did not have a good plan; even if they did have one, they couldn't execute. Such an outing is not a confidence builder.

Good for England for getting some plans right.