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Re: League rule changes
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2015, 11:14:33 AM »

They seem dead set on doing away with teas and imho this is just a sneaky way of moving towards that without making the jump in one go. Clubs will have less incentive to put in decent teas if it goes through so quality will drop and there will be less opposition to scrap entirely at a future vote.
Sad times  :(
Don't charge the oppo for teas in the wepl mate, and on the whole the quality has improved.
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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2015, 11:31:11 AM »

Yea maybe I'm just being negative after they've mentioned doing away with them the last couple of years.
Lines like "(Support for NO teas but not yet – enough change!)" and "10 minutes between innings/no teas" being included in the info to clubs don't fill me with hope!
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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2015, 11:52:10 AM »

The league is clearly bizarrely keen to get rid of teas for some reason. Can't believe anyone who's played the game would think 10 minute changeovers in a 45 over game is a good idea, would obviously have an immediate effect on the quality of cricket for a start.
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Re: League rule changes
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2015, 12:20:24 PM »

As an opening bat and with our leagues emphasis on winning the toss and batting second as an opener you have to get used to only having  around 10 mins between innings you don't really have time for tea particually at home waiting behind the opposition to get there tea although the tea break is 25 mins after fielding first  for upto 50 overs I need  a cool down wash full gear change and kit on to do it properly it can easily take me 15 mins nothing worse than rushing out to bat not properly ready because as we all know your very quickly back in the pavilion.
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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2015, 12:22:32 PM »

They seem to just see it as another way to cut down the length of the day following the recent player surveys.
30 over matches for lower divisions also mentioned as food for future thought
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Re: League rule changes
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2015, 06:39:23 PM »

30 overs is just pathetic, might as well play 2020 and have done with it and kill off anything but slap and tickle.

As for short turn around times, why not? You don't need 30 mins break, and if someone says 'but I've bowled and then straight out to bat', well tough, that's part of the challenge, or let someone else play!

I'd get rid of teas personally as I dot eat them as I open and don't like eating before fielding and suffer no ill effects during the game even when it's hot
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Re: League rule changes
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2015, 07:30:32 PM »

My Sunday team had a few seasons where we just had a cup of tea and a few biscuits, then back out. We had sausage and chips at the pub afterwards and it worked really well. We've only gone back to making proper teas as the pub started asking far too much. It's a pain as it's really difficult to get players to do the teas and we don't have any wives kind enough to do them each week.

As for overs rules, 5 bowlers all bowling the same amount should be compulsory in all limited overs games. Yes you can argue that a batsman can bat right through an innings, but one mistake and it's all over. Bowlers don't have to stop if they get hit for 6! We should also play the same rules as the pro's with free hits for no balls. Who wouldn't like the chance of a free swing every once in a while!
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Re: League rule changes
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2015, 08:51:46 AM »

The problem with shortened games is that it's far harder to get everyone a game. If I turned up and was batting at 6-7 in a thirty over game, at best I'd get a bat for about 5 overs. I'd soon jack it in. Shortening the game will increase the slide in people dropping out of the game.
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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2015, 11:32:33 AM »

The problem with shortened games is that it's far harder to get everyone a game. If I turned up and was batting at 6-7 in a thirty over game, at best I'd get a bat for about 5 overs. I'd soon jack it in. Shortening the game will increase the slide in people dropping out of the game.

I got my adult cricket start in third team midweek T20, being the young guy I was always batting 10 or 11. You're lucky if you face more than 3 balls. It actually put a few juniors off turning out for the thirds, they didn't see the point if they were only going to be batting for a few balls per game.
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« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2015, 05:31:43 PM »

The problem with shortened games is that it's far harder to get everyone a game. If I turned up and was batting at 6-7 in a thirty over game, at best I'd get a bat for about 5 overs. I'd soon jack it in. Shortening the game will increase the slide in people dropping out of the game.

Yey, at last someone speaks sense. Short games only favour sloggers and the top 3-4 batsmen. Bowlers barley get a decent bowl And as you say, anyone from 6+ generally doesn't bat. The only people I've found in unlimited experience who want short games are those who would bat at the top and don't care about the other 10 players and think they are there to make the numbers up.

I really don't get why everyone is so fixated on getting rid of draws and shortening the game. Both IMO are red herrings and will lead to less players playing, not more. That's not even mentioning the inevitable drop in standards that will occur
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