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[petehosk]

I love the quote that Asia make the best bats!
You will have to excuse my ignorance if I would prefer Kranzbuhler, Laver, Keeley (both Tim and Fred), Kember, Pack, Millichamp,  etc to name but a few, to make a bat for me!
I realise that the Asian market does have a few excellent Master bat makers, so please don't for one minute think that I am saying they don't make some excellent bats! Plus I do own a number of excellent Asian bats, some of which are quality!
And I realise Vic, that you are unlikely to slag off Kranzbuhler, as he is a fellow Aussie. Not sure where you stand with Laver (being a pom residing on NZ!)
But saying a sweeping statement like that with all the absolute amazing batmakers that I have mentioned above shows that you have possibly been hit on the head a few times too many yourself with some lasting damage? Obviously, if this is the case, it would have been before you purchased your Shrey!! As your Shrey would never have left that lasting damage!

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Wooo anti-english abuse is back. Vic, are you actually a crazy racist with a hard on for Shrey helmets, or just fancied a troll again? The Shrey helmet isn't even the same design as last time!

I'll just add that I got concussed this season after being hit on the temple while wearing... an Indian manufactured Masuri. I wasn't facing Mitch Starc pace either! Conventional helmets can't actually really do anything about concussion (look it up).

[mdg20]

Without sounding crass the lid did its job because Morgan got hit flush on the temple and isnt dead.

Helmets arent there to prevent all injuries but to seriously reduce the effect of a blow to the head. In this case it think its safe to say it did that.

[gerhard303]

Has anyone done a review of the latest Shreys? They are priced lower than Masuri in Australia (models below Masterclass) hence my interest.

[Vic Nicholas]

I love the quote that Asia make the best bats!
You will have to excuse my ignorance if I would prefer Kranzbuhler, Laver, Keeley (both Tim and Fred), Kember, Pack, Millichamp,  etc to name but a few, to make a bat for me!
I realise that the Asian market does have a few excellent Master bat makers, so please don't for one minute think that I am saying they don't make some excellent bats! Plus I do own a number of excellent Asian bats, some of which are quality!
And I realise Vic, that you are unlikely to slag off Kranzbuhler, as he is a fellow Aussie. Not sure where you stand with Laver (being a pom residing on NZ!)
But saying a sweeping statement like that with all the absolute amazing batmakers that I have mentioned above shows that you have possibly been hit on the head a few times too many yourself with some lasting damage? Obviously, if this is the case, it would have been before you purchased your Shrey!! As your Shrey would never have left that lasting damage!

Give me an SS over any of the above.

All very capable batmakers, but, I feel they have been surpassed.

A.B. De Villiers
Hashim Amla
Virat Kohli
Steve Smith
...all use Asian made bats.

That is good enough for me.

There just seems to be a general lack of acceptance on this forum that anything not made in the UK is somehow inferior - and it isn't.

That is essentially my point.

Morgan staggered off KOed. Moeen and Shikhar Dhawan from similar blows on their Shrey's batted on in no discomfort.

It is not a question of whether Shrey are better than British made helmets. It is more that the British helmets are not as great as some on here have made them out to be.

[Vic Nicholas]

Wooo anti-english abuse is back. Vic, are you actually a crazy racist with a hard on for Shrey helmets, or just fancied a troll again? The Shrey helmet isn't even the same design as last time!

I'll just add that I got concussed this season after being hit on the temple while wearing... an Indian manufactured Masuri. I wasn't facing Mitch Starc pace either! Conventional helmets can't actually really do anything about concussion (look it up).

Racist???

How can what I say be construed as racist?

Aren't the English related to most Aussies?

Or have the English in the last 200 years morphed into something else?

None of this would even have been an issue except that many on here 18 months ago went to great lengths to insist that Shrey would "die", "never get approved by British Standards" and other tosh.

If they (they know who they are) were more civil and accepting, then there would be no reason to even have this discussion.

[Vic Nicholas]

Always good to see an old fashioned trollist, opinion based, rant flying in the face of any useful facts!

I agree with you Tim.

So many on here should be ashamed of themselves peddling their lies.

[ajmw89]

[Vic Nicholas]

An opinion perpetuated only by you Vic, to allow you to enjoy your anti-pom, separatist, right-wing anti-colonial, facile, childish, provocative, go-aussie-go, deluded, fantastical, faux-superior and frankly buttock-clenchingly tedious clap-trap.

It's a good job none of us rise to it! 

Right wing?

You do realise that right wingers in Oz support the British monarchy don't you?

I support an Australian Republic. The sooner we divest ourselves of the anachronistic British monarch presiding over Australia - the better.

Anti-Pom?

Not at all. I love the English. They have given us some of the finest bands in rock history (think Beatles, Stones, The Who, Kinks, Led Zep, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Queen, Sweet, The Darkness etc), Shakespear, Elgar etc...

The ONLY thing I dislike about this forum is the conservative "Made in the UK is superior" mentality that pervades through here.

Does that make me a raving right winger? Or as one other poster just now - a racist?

It seems that you all have no dramas with calumniating a persons character when you cannot win an argument.

It is called "argumentum ad hominem" and unfortunately, many of you engage in it.

That is your prerogative.

I just like being a contrarian.

[Vic Nicholas]

Must be a pic of yourself. I don't look anything like that...and unlike many on here, I am not morbidly obese either.

[Nugget97]

At the end of the day a helmet is a helmet no matter the brand as long as it does its job taking the blow instead of your head does it really matter who's logo is stuck on it, you can never guarantee your not going to get concussed from a blow

[petehosk]

Give me an SS over any of the above.
All very capable batmakers, but, I feel they have been surpassed.

A.B. De Villiers
Hashim Amla
Virat Kohli
Steve Smith
...all use Asian made bats.

That is good enough for me.

There just seems to be a general lack of acceptance on this forum that anything not made in the UK is somehow inferior - and it isn't.

That is essentially my point.

From a kit point of view, the UK cannot compete with the labour costs in Asia so the kit is made over there...normally from templates and processes created in UK/Aus, etc!
Therefore pointless talking about who makes the best kit as the move is due to manufacturers making profits!

From helmet point of view, there was talk about Shrey not being up to scratch - and at the time there was genuine doubt! Shrey have adapted well and seem to have ensured a decent level of quality. But no reason to disrespect other brands! Just like cars, everyone has their brand that they prefer!! I use Ayrtek but most people (myself included) do not play against 90mph bowling so it is not such an issue!

And with Bats - I was guilty myself of not rating Asian brands but that was a few years ago. I now have SS, Ton, BAS, Malik, etc, etc, etc!
Since then I have had several absolute insane Asian sticks....the best being a Ton from a Pro, which went like a rocket. And a BAS (which I don't think was from a Pro) and was totally insane (in a good way)
But I would still put my Salix and Keeley bats above all else! Performance wise, there is not that much between them and the Asian bats! But the way they feel...the pick up, the balance, the quality of finish, and several other factors just lift them above the best of the Asian bats I have used!
There is no doubt that Asian bat makers have learnt quickly and well, and make some ridiculously good bats. And I can fully understand your opinion if you really do prefer them (and are not just saying this because you have an issue with us Poms and most things British!) but you need to appreciate and respect others opinions if based on experience.   

[Vic Nicholas]

From a kit point of view, the UK cannot compete with the labour costs in Asia so the kit is made over there...normally from templates and processes created in UK/Aus, etc!
Therefore pointless talking about who makes the best kit as the move is due to manufacturers making profits!

From helmet point of view, there was talk about Shrey not being up to scratch - and at the time there was genuine doubt! Shrey have adapted well and seem to have ensured a decent level of quality. But no reason to disrespect other brands! Just like cars, everyone has their brand that they prefer!! I use Ayrtek but most people (myself included) do not play against 90mph bowling so it is not such an issue!

And with Bats - I was guilty myself of not rating Asian brands but that was a few years ago. I now have SS, Ton, BAS, Malik, etc, etc, etc!
Since then I have had several absolute insane Asian sticks....the best being a Ton from a Pro, which went like a rocket. And a BAS (which I don't think was from a Pro) and was totally insane (in a good way)
But I would still put my Salix and Keeley bats above all else! Performance wise, there is not that much between them and the Asian bats! But the way they feel...the pick up, the balance, the quality of finish, and several other factors just lift them above the best of the Asian bats I have used!
There is no doubt that Asian bat makers have learnt quickly and well, and make some ridiculously good bats. And I can fully understand your opinion if you really do prefer them (and are not just saying this because you have an issue with us Poms and most things British!) but you need to appreciate and respect others opinions if based on experience.

I don't care for Kranzbeuhler's and Bradbury's bats either.

So enough of this "he doesn't rate our stuff because it is English".

If you make me the best bat ever, and it is made in England - I will love you forever. But, the Asian bats I have are simply better performance wise.

[Vic Nicholas]

That's me...

[WalkingWicket37]

A picture of yourself eating, you morbidly obese mess Vic!