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Re: cricketbatblog.com
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2015, 07:51:26 PM »

A more up to date topic, may be how far the ball goes off a modern big edge profile bat?

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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2015, 07:52:26 PM »

Mostly when we see players with massive bats it is the psychology that comes with seeing massive edges - it gives the batsman confidence thinking he/she is more likely to hot the ball out of the park, and the opposition are gonna potentially be a bit scared by this.
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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2015, 08:37:11 PM »


Mostly when we see players with massive bats it is the psychology that comes with seeing massive edges - it gives the batsman confidence thinking he/she is more likely to hot the ball out of the park, and the opposition are gonna potentially be a bit scared by this.
The reason that the opposition are scared of a large bat is because the initial instinct is to think it is heavy and will therefore allow the ball to be hit a long way...


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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2015, 06:36:48 AM »

What I love about point A is that it is pure physics. And always has been. Which is why the arguments about whether certain bats hit the ball further are generally moot!


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Absolutely agree - but those involved in the press and media seem to prefer the bandwagon...
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Re: cricketbatblog.com
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2015, 07:25:03 AM »

The reason that the opposition are scared of a large bat is because the initial instinct is to think it is heavy and will therefore allow the ball to be hit a long way...


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It's the hitting a long way from mis timed shots that's the issue these days
The theory that you can swing hard at the ball with the confidence an off middle shot will still clear the in fielders and possibly the boundary is the worry for bowlers.

I'm talking bats like the kippax colossus as opposed to the Warner replica profile.

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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2015, 01:49:43 PM »

It's the hitting a long way from mis timed shots that's the issue these days
The theory that you can swing hard at the ball with the confidence an off middle shot will still clear the in fielders and possibly the boundary is the worry for bowlers.


Dont think this is a bat issue, more of a change in technique/mentallity to the t20 format of the game. As we wrote in th article, if the bat vs ball contest needs re- balancing, there are alot of other different (easier to enforce) areas to be worked on.

Balls
Fielding restrictions
wicket conditions
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2015, 03:38:35 PM »

Dont think this is a bat issue, more of a change in technique/mentallity to the t20 format of the game. As we wrote in th article, if the bat vs ball contest needs re- balancing, there are alot of other different (easier to enforce) areas to be worked on.

Balls
Fielding restrictions
wicket conditions

Fully agree with you Doc, I think the first preference should be given to change the fielding restrictions which would definitely help bowlers and the 2'nd one should be size of the boundaries.

Wickets are usually made to suit the home (bowling) side in tests and in ODIs it favours batsman to make it an even contest between the sides.
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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2015, 04:03:09 PM »

Would love to read more about the technology used in machine made bats, some videos maybe?

Also any history on research done on wood, moisture etc. How did the 10-15% percent number become the norm?
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2015, 09:08:09 AM »

Just on the big bat debate - here are two bats - one is 20 years old, the other brand new.

remember the new bat is almost 2 oz heavier than the old bat. As any pod shaver will tell you 2oz is a massive amount of wood:




hardly that much bigger - just a different shape...
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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2015, 11:33:55 AM »

Just on the big bat debate - here are two bats - one is 20 years old, the other brand new.

remember the new bat is almost 2 oz heavier than the old bat. As any pod shaver will tell you 2oz is a massive amount of wood:




hardly that much bigger - just a different shape...


Exactly, I have done a few retro designs for this purpose, and in terms of "volume" the bats of yester year are similar to todays bats
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2015, 12:14:27 PM »

Exactly, I have done a few retro designs for this purpose, and in terms of "volume" the bats of yester year are similar to todays bats
I find it rather interesting - I have a lot of older bats. If I put them next to my current bats, I find that I've generally got either a lot of low density willow, or I've got very different pressing. One thing I notice is that there seems, anecdotally, to be more use of denser willow in adult cricket bats from years ago, which may now be given over to the children's bats.
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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2015, 01:57:35 PM »

I find it rather interesting - I have a lot of older bats. If I put them next to my current bats, I find that I've generally got either a lot of low density willow, or I've got very different pressing. One thing I notice is that there seems, anecdotally, to be more use of denser willow in adult cricket bats from years ago, which may now be given over to the children's bats.

I think a lot of this can be associated to the improving of drying techniques discussed in the blog.
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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2015, 03:02:54 PM »

What's the best way to dry a cleft for optimum performance?
I'm not talking about drying the thing out to give an illusion of size

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« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2015, 04:23:09 PM »

Just started my next topic - Pressing and the Bow of a cricket bat.

Also I wanted to ask, I really would like to start analysing competitors technology (or what they state in their catalogues) seen a few interesting claims of late. I hopefully will have enough dignity to admit if I think it is a good idea but vice versa will state if I believe it is a marketing ploy, with hopefully a little bit of science behind my opinion. My question is (are)

1. Would you like to read my thoughts on competitors ideas / technology
2. How do you think this would effect the way B3 is percieved by the reader

Look forward to your thoughts.

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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2015, 04:56:31 PM »

I think that's a good idea. As we all know most of the technology "presented" may not be actually true, bat (legally allowed) being made from natural materials can have only a little amount of technological innovation added into it. I'll love to see a "Myth Busters" section.

I also wanted to know how we can identify deficiencies/issues in a bat while choosing. One of my questions is how can I identify a bat is storm damaged one (some pics will help).
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