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« on: November 09, 2015, 04:54:28 PM »

Hi chaps,

Done my first post on - the science behind the spin (a post about the technology used in cricket - what the marketing spin means and is it justified).

The first blog is about the honeycomb handle brought out by Laver&Wood - http://wp.me/p69Qw2-1g

This is really difficult for me as I have my views and want the public to hear them, as I read some stuff and think what the hell does that mean.... but also I dont want people to think that "its that mad bloke from B3", or "he would slate anything non B3" As this is not the case - (might be a little bonkers....)This is truely a personal blog and in no way associated to B3.

Anyway - testing it out on you guys to see if you think its a good idea, is there a niche for this kind of blog?

Would like to hear your opinion warts and all.

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Re: cricketbatblog - new post
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2015, 05:12:35 PM »

Nice blog - at the end you touch on the counterbalance point - I think more information and some thoughts on that would be really interesting as they seem a load of nonsense to me, but some people think it is a great plan...
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Re: cricketbatblog - new post
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2015, 05:20:05 PM »

Nice blog - at the end you touch on the counterbalance point - I think more information and some thoughts on that would be really interesting as they seem a load of nonsense to me, but some people think it is a great plan...

Hi @Buzz will update the blog and talk a little bit more on this subject - might even be ablog in it's own right.....
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2015, 05:41:26 PM »

Would be nice if L&W comment on the C-Ten handle via this blog.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2015, 05:46:07 PM »

Interesting read @thedoctor hard to argue with the theory/logic. Just wondering if you had the actual weight of the resin insert or did you just do 10% of the weight calc? Also in the cut up pic of the handle the resin, i thought, penetrated deeper into the handle than the 1 inch hollowed out area...could that impact the stiffness of the handle too?

Hard to see but you can kind of make out the resin in the 2nd and 3rd piece as well of the middle pic

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Re: cricketbatblog - new post
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2015, 05:50:50 PM »

I was shocked when Jason posted the handle, but when I posted the pics, it seemed many was aware that that was the amount of depth given.


I was glad I chose a standard handle on my laver and not the extra for this one.



What difference does cork vs rubber make in terms of weight? Read somewhere a player(can't remember who) always request rubber as it helps the counterbalance theory.
So wondered what the big difference is?
(Have to say I prefer the feel of a cork handle over rubber)
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Re: cricketbatblog - new post
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2015, 06:16:32 PM »

Interesting blog as I considered one like this

Would be interesting to see how far the carbo cane goes down as when I had one of those it felt and sounded different so I can only assume it went further down?
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2015, 06:39:49 PM »

Interesting blog as I considered one like this

Would be interesting to see how far the carbo cane goes down as when I had one of those it felt and sounded different so I can only assume it went further down?
I had a  GN bat with Carbo at the bottom of the handle
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2015, 07:02:55 PM »

Another interesting read, I'm sure Jacques Kallis always had something that looked like a massive counter weight on his handle.
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Re: cricketbatblog - new post
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2015, 09:28:09 AM »

Interesting read @thedoctor hard to argue with the theory/logic. Just wondering if you had the actual weight of the resin insert or did you just do 10% of the weight calc? Also in the cut up pic of the handle the resin, i thought, penetrated deeper into the handle than the 1 inch hollowed out area...could that impact the stiffness of the handle too?

Hard to see but you can kind of make out the resin in the 2nd and 3rd piece as well of the middle pic



The model and caculations use density data for all the materials and then calculates the final weight so its all pretty accurate. The resin would have too higher viscosity to penetrate into the handle further than the cut out.

Initially I couldnt see it - and just thought it was the honeycomb but reading between the lines and also from the picture of the honeycomb cut in half I think it is there.
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Re: cricketbatblog - new post
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2015, 09:28:46 AM »

Interesting blog as I considered one like this

Would be interesting to see how far the carbo cane goes down as when I had one of those it felt and sounded different so I can only assume it went further down?

If any one has any pictures I'd be interested.
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Re: cricketbatblog - new post
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2015, 09:36:39 AM »

I was shocked when Jason posted the handle, but when I posted the pics, it seemed many was aware that that was the amount of depth given.


I was glad I chose a standard handle on my laver and not the extra for this one.



What difference does cork vs rubber make in terms of weight? Read somewhere a player(can't remember who) always request rubber as it helps the counterbalance theory.
So wondered what the big difference is?
(Have to say I prefer the feel of a cork handle over rubber)

From experience the cork handles will on average be 0.75oz lighter than that of the rubber. I think the counterbalance theory is a bit of a myth
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Re: cricketbatblog - new post
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2015, 09:53:43 AM »

If any one has any pictures I'd be interested.


http://www.laverwood.co.nz/carboproduct_detail.php

seems I've answered my own question with a bit of digging

MCC laws prevent it being more than 10% as of 2008
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Re: cricketbatblog - new post
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2015, 09:57:12 AM »

seems to be about stiffening the handle but are there other ways to do this maybe double binding the handle?
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2015, 10:08:16 AM »

seems to be about stiffing the handle but are there other ways to do this maybe double binding the handle?

Again not convinced about this stiffness claim on something that does not penetrate that far, For me it would certainly need to go past the pivot point and almost certain into the blade to have any effect.
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