Topic: 30 over league cricket (Read 10018 times)

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #30 on:** December 10, 2015, 10:31:59 PM »

Quote from: edge on December 10, 2015, 10:24:18 PM

Rules against strengthening makes sense, I understand that, but used to play in a league that just had a rule that if you dropped teams you couldn't bat top six or bowl before 30 overs for a couple of games. Worked fine, just putting a rule against people moving down teams is insane. Feel sorry for anyone in their club 2s who bangs vast amounts of runs and can't be promoted up because the league says noone can be dropped.

It is a weird rule. I fell out of interest in 1xi cricket this year so said I only playing 2xi for a few weeks (after 9'games and I was avging 30+ opening in the 1xi). Played against @OwzatOllie as it happens and just had fun, didn't take the mick by slogging or biffing them but played sensible shots with a couple of mates and my dad umpiring. Enjoyed it more than any 1xi game.. Yet, technically I shouldn't have played which is silly because I wasn't enjoying 1ximceicket so was likely to just stop playing which surely for the game is a bad thing ....

As it happens the 1xi top order collapsed and that was the only 2xi game I played but it was the most enjoyable Saturday I had this year without doubt.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #31 on:** December 10, 2015, 10:34:22 PM »

Don't think 30 overs would be very satisfying as some wouldn't get a bat or bowl they would just be paying subs to field and would soon get fed up and stop playing

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #32 on:** December 10, 2015, 10:47:16 PM »

With regard to teas they will eventually be dropped due to clubs struggling for people to do them many clubs already serve teas which are of poor quality due to the small amount of tea money they receive.

Stuey · « **Reply #33 on:** December 10, 2015, 11:00:27 PM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on December 10, 2015, 10:47:16 PM

With regard to teas they will eventually be dropped due to clubs struggling for people to do them many clubs already serve teas which are of poor quality due to the small amount of tea money they receive.

Regrettably I agree.

thecord · « **Reply #34 on:** December 10, 2015, 11:07:08 PM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on December 10, 2015, 10:47:16 PM

With regard to teas they will eventually be dropped due to clubs struggling for people to do them many clubs already serve teas which are of poor quality due to the small amount of tea money they receive.

I think that's very sad personally, with nobody drink driving any more like in the old days fewer and fewer clubs stay behind for a drink post game so the tea break is the main time you get to have a bit of banter.
We found with earlier starts and therefore earlier finishes less people stayed to socialise at our club because they had more time to crack on elsewhere

thecord · « **Reply #35 on:** December 10, 2015, 11:10:35 PM »

Final thought for now, we shorten the format to encourage the youngsters and less hardcore players to play the game...in doing so the old guard, who invariably do the majority of work off field keeping the clubs running become disgruntled at shorter format cricket and step away from the game...do we expect the younger, casual cricketer to take up the slack and fill the committee roles? Or do we expect even more clubs to disappear?

I know where my money lies sadly

OwzatOllie · « **Reply #36 on:** December 10, 2015, 11:53:44 PM »

Personally I think 45 overs is ideal. The main issue is travelling, which thankfully, next year should be reduced, as we won't be playing the 2 sides in Bristol. Sitting on the motorway for 45 mins in bumper-to-bumper traffic worrying if we will get to the ground on time is not fun!

I work saturday mornings and when you have to be ready at 11am to be picked up it is not enjoyable!

If it was 30 overs, I would not score more than 30 as I have a slower strike rate, I'd get tonked as I bowl spin, and pay the same amount of subs to field less time...subs are too high as it is, but paying �8-10 to field for approx 2 hours and be unlikely to have a good game with bat or ball...no thanks!

Cin88 · « **Reply #37 on:** December 11, 2015, 12:17:36 AM »

Turn up and field only players are already rife in 40-50 over cricket, 30 overs would make it worse. As has been repeatedly stated, no one wants to pay subs only to stand around fielding. I started senior cricket in my old club's midweek T20 team and I was lucky if I faced more than one ball in a game, it wasn't worth me turning up and paying subs just to stand around at fine leg all night.

As much as I despise fielding in 45 over games (mostly because I don't get a bowl and happen to be a magnet for the ball), i'd sooner play 45 overs than 30 any day. At least with longer games there's a chance of a decent bat and different batting styles can be utilised, rather than just having 11 sloggers. I personally don't think i'm suited to short games anyway, as I tend to dig in and score slowly.

wally · « **Reply #38 on:** December 11, 2015, 12:49:31 AM »

30 overs is no good to anyone ! In our league 2nd team cricket is now 40 overs and its just been announced that this current season 2nd team cricket is win or loose no draws which I think will hopefully keep the younger players interested in keep playing after they finish junior cricket.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #39 on:** December 11, 2015, 10:07:50 AM »

Rather than reduce travel our league increased it we used to have North and South divisions with promotion and relegation but in there wisdom the league dropped the North and South divide In favour of promotion and relegation players now have to travel miles to certain away matches the knock on effect for some clubs is they cannot get players to play on Sunday after having to travel on Saturday.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #40 on:** December 11, 2015, 10:54:31 AM »

With regard to the travel issue Knowing the locations of the away teams grounds for season 2016 and the travelling I would have to undertake to get to these grounds at the end of November I reluctantly informed my club that I shall not be available in 2016.

Butterfingerz · « **Reply #41 on:** December 11, 2015, 12:48:35 PM »

I can see both good and bad in this,

the good...
The majority of lower division games (only speaking from experience of leagues in South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire) seem to last around 30 -35 overs, by bringing in a shorter format your attracting younger players (15-19) to want to spend a Saturday playing. Many younger players are turned off playing by the potential for games not finishing until 8-9 pm whilst the even younger up and coming players (13-15) see the 50 over format as too long and tiring being stood in the field all day. The hope of getting younger players to turn out on a Saturday in the shorter form means as they grow and develop through to higher levels they move onto 50 overs. We are loosing too many juniors and need to find some way of keeping them involved...they are the future of the game and indeed our clubs!

The bad...
The older, more experienced players have become accustomed to 50 overs and the time it allows at the crease, the shorter form does not suit everyone.

In my opinion I feel that the lower leagues are for teams of mixed ages, the older players passing on the experience and wisdom to your youth. However too many players are clinging onto playing and stopping the younger players coming through. I retired playing at 40, I could have gone on but having played previously at a high level would I really have been happy playing 4th team cricket? That would have stopped the progression of the number of promising juniors coming through the club.

I keep involved with the game both in a coaching and umpiring capacity, the later has seen me take part at a level which on a playing front I'm too old and knackered to take part in. I find these almost as rewarding as playing.

I know the game is for everyone but I think as the older end we have to look to the future and how we can preserve the future of not only our game but also our clubs.

With regards to travel, it never worried me as a player where I was traveling too as long as I was playing and even now having been accepted onto the new Yorkshire League umpiring panel I will be traveling longer distances than ever before.

Six Sixes Cricket · « **Reply #42 on:** December 11, 2015, 03:52:19 PM »

Ecb survey

thecord · « **Reply #43 on:** December 11, 2015, 04:00:23 PM »

Yea I saw that @d7bow
The article @uknsaunders has just posted gives some u retesting insights though. Seems to suggest they aren't really worried about existing players

edge · « **Reply #44 on:** December 11, 2015, 04:04:53 PM »

What is the deal with the 33% who aren't happy with a 30 min journey? You're gonna play the same people a lot if you'll only play teams within a half hour drive of you.

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