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[Karlo84]

@Centurion, not a problem, glad i could help

@dannyhall04 cheers mate

@CalverKeeper Agreed, reviewing video footage is a fantastic way to improve yourself. As you rightly point out, what you think youre doing and what youre actually doing could be two completely different things. With regards to switching off and gee-ing up fielders at the same time.... humour goes a long way. If youve a funny story going through the team, mention it. We had a lad go out clubbing the previous week and pull an absolute horror show of a woman, we kept dropping her name in wherever we could. It keeps the team morale high and youre switched off from that little red round thing which should be the only thing mattering in your world when the bowler gets hold of it again.

If humour isnt your thing, dont worry, standard encouragement will always be welcomed. A common team theme/humour has always worked best for me though

[bk]

Have a look at the top keepers on television and also the weaker ones.
Standing up Dhoni's the best. Really solid hands to take fast stumpings and still catches more than most.
Standing back the Aussies tend to be best as they're the only ones still playing on fast carrying pitches.
If you get the chance have a look at Bairstow. He's got a trigger movement with his left foot which stops him covering his right side effectively. The best guys have no movement or both feet go together.

[thecord]

Standing up Dhoni's the best. Really solid hands to take fast stumpings and still catches more than most.

Really?!

[northernboy1987]

Really?!

I was thinking that James Foster is one of the best I've ever seen stood up, especially to seam up bowling, still struggle to go past Healy keeping to Warne as far as keeping to spin goes.

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[thecord]

Jack Russell for me but then I'm biased as a Bristol lad.
Healy to Warne was certainly very good and as you say Foster, particularly stood up to seamers, has been excellent for a long time although I wonder if he is on the slide now after watching him on TV a couple of times last year

[northernboy1987]

Haven't seen Foster play for a couple of years to be fair.

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[northernboy1987]

Russell was a different class as well

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[WalkingWicket37]

Have a look at the top keepers on television and also the weaker ones.
Standing up Dhoni's the best. Really solid hands to take fast stumpings and still catches more than most. I'll have some of whatever you've been smoking please!
Standing back the Aussies tend to be best as they're the only ones still playing on fast carrying pitches. Everyone can look good standing back, if you can catch you'll look competent standing back basically
If you get the chance have a look at Bairstow. He's got a trigger movement with his left foot which stops him covering his right side effectively. The best guys have no movement or both feet go together.

I'm not sure I agree about the trigger movement thing, as foot movement is a big part of keeping surely a small trigger will help get into the right position more than standing still. As long as you aren't going miles of the off side and giving yourself no chance of getting anything down leg I cannot see an issue with it.

[dcullen8]

The thing with bairstow as far as ive seen (double checked with a professional search of youtube too) is that his trigger is actually a slight jump the left, overcoming that inertia to go back to the right becomes a little harder than if he didnt move

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[cricketbadger]

Dhoni is very good up at yhem stumps to spinners. His footwork leaves a lot to be desired but hands and speed is impressive.

In terms of Bairstow, pretty easy to pick his technique to peices after watching them moan about it on Sky Sports during this test. Remind me how many of the pundits have kept wicket???

[WalkingWicket37]

I was thinking that James Foster is one of the best I've ever seen stood up, especially to seam up bowling, still struggle to go past Healy keeping to Warne as far as keeping to spin goes.

Michael Bates was the best young keeper I'd seen live. Was gutted when Hampshire let him go.
Chris Read's glovework was something to behold too, it's a real shame he never really "made it" in international cricket

[northernboy1987]

England never deemed Foster or Read to be good enough batsmen for some reason did they. They got what they wanted in Prior, a test quality batsman who's keeping was passable and could be improved on the job.

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[WalkingWicket37]

It's a shame really, Adam Gilchrist has almost re-defined the roll of a keeper.
At international level everyone seems to go for a batsman who can keep, and it's started happening at county level.
I'll use Hampshire as my example, Michael Bates was possibly the most promising gloveman in the country, and could bat a bit (he has a first class hundred). However his batting wasn't deemed good enough so Adam Wheater was bought into the side. His glovework was passable, but he is a batsman who keeps rather than a keeper. He even played as a batsman in championship cricket, while Bates took the gloves.
Batting is seen to be more important than keeping nowadays, so Bates was sadly released and Wheater given the keeping duties. Admitedly he isn't a bad stumper, but Bates' glovework was on a different level.

In a few years keeping may not be a specialist job at all, with the modern brand of batsman heavy cricket sides may play a side with all batsman/all rounders with the team drawing staws to decide who takes the gloves...

[northernboy1987]

Yeah stumpers like Gilchrist and Boucher ruined it for everyone by being good at both disciplines haha! It's right though, it's getting more and more batsman heavy nowadays, England for example fielded a side with Rashid batting at 11 last year, he has something like 10 first class centuries!

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[Karlo84]

@WalkingWicket37  completely agree about Dhoni, stood up he looks very fast because he has hard hands and is always directing his gloves towards the stumps. This looks rapid when he takes it cleanly but any thin edge of anything down leg and he is well short of the mark. Stood back he is lazy, very very lazy., Anyone can look good stood back (so long as your footwork is in order)

A name people constantly forget to mention is Kumar Sangakkara, he was both a quality glovesman and batsman. He kept to the mystery of Muriltharan and the swing of Vaas and the waywardness and pace of Malinga and made it all look fairly straight forward, wherever he was playing. I think I'm also right in saying he has the most ODI dismissals and a very impressive test record too.

In terms of trigger movement, there's nothing wrong with that at all. Often wicket keeping requires dynamic movement and you have to set yourself up for that however you find best. Nowadays you're in the minority of batsman if you don't have some sort of trigger, the same can be said for wicketkeeping. So long as you are set and well balanced in the power position at the point of delivery, it doesn't matter if you do the okey kokey to get you there.

In terms of up and coming keepers, keep your eye on Ben duckett from Northants. I played against him when he played for Northants 2's when he was 15(!) and was a quality keeper then. He must be 20 now and I have no doubt he will be next in line for the England job in a few years, so long as he keeps certain things in check..

Karlo