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[edge]

Nigh on 300 test wickets! I don't understand why Kallis isn't exalted as a legend, his stats more than back it up imo. Is it because he wasn't as "exciting" to watch as Botham et al?

Partly because he was bloody boring, yep. Batting I think he's well recognised, but he really didn't bowl that much and would never have got picked as a bowler alone. 290 wickets yes, but in almost 170 tests and only 5 fivefers. Imagine how many someone like Botham would have taken if he'd played that many!

[northernboy1987]

Partly because he was bloody boring, yep. Batting I think he's well recognised, but he really didn't bowl that much and would never have got picked as a bowler alone. 290 wickets yes, but in almost 170 tests and only 5 fivefers. Imagine how many someone like Botham would have taken if he'd played that many!

By the way, hope you didn't think my use of "exciting" was sarcasm, Kallis was a bit boring! But he got results! You do make a fair point about number of games played, but surely that's part of the charm? He was good enough to play 160odd tests and hit a century in his last test, Botham's (although great and in my opinion the better all rounder) powers waned a bit before his 100th test and he didn't hit over 51 after '86 or more than 3 wickets after '87.

[Buzz]

The Indian fielding is beyond awful.

[csnew]

looks like india are heading out at this rate - bit embarrassing at home

[smilley792]

It's a tad quiet in the ground.

[rickjames]

Whilst this isn't necessarily an upset as Bangladesh are no mugs, I'm happy to let India take what was inevitably England's job of being humiliated.

[edge]

By the way, hope you didn't think my use of "exciting" was sarcasm, Kallis was a bit boring! But he got results! You do make a fair point about number of games played, but surely that's part of the charm? He was good enough to play 160odd tests and hit a century in his last test, Botham's (although great and in my opinion the better all rounder) powers waned a bit before his 100th test and he didn't hit over 51 after '86 or more than 3 wickets after '87.

Ha no, I don't think anyone would call him exciting! True, that many tests is a hell of a good stint for someone who bowls pace, but if he'd been a better bowler and so bowled more overs I don't think he'd have played nearly as many. Not sure what the most tests played by a front line seamer is but there aren't many who've played over a hundred and it's probably even lower for allrounders. Legend of the game for sure, but the great allrounder group will always be a tiny one. Stokes at present is the only player in the world who's even close, if he gets the consistency he'll go down as at least an English great I think.

Excellent. India are losing. Hopefully if they go out then we'll hear a lot less rubbish talked about how wonderful the IPL is!

[brokenbat]

The disparity of pitches between India games, and non-india games is shocking. Fair to say we know what the "I" in ICC stands for!

Also...this has backfired. I think making slow turners has actually hurt India, as most teams (minus Pakistan) have spinners good enough to exploit those conditions - the bcci has basically been neutralizing india's own batting power.

[rickjames]

Again, thank God we're not in Group B

[rickjames]

This is too much

[procricket]

Conspiracy theory making the rounds

[smilley792]

Bangladesh doing there best to let India win having got to within a certainty of winning with 3 balls left!

[smilley792]

Well!

[rickjames]

Just braindead batting, no need to sky it like they did

[procricket]

Oh dear what a joke rubbish lost faith in cricket watching that last 3 balls