Topic: which cricket ball, dukes intertional or sg test match / sf test (Read 19800 times)

Cricketfan99 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 11, 2016, 01:21:50 AM »

Quote from: IronChef on March 05, 2016, 10:06:01 AM

We use Oxbridge owned by Tiflex.

Tiflex and the brands that they own might make very good balls, it just has yet to filter down into our league unfortunately and I haven't had the pleasure of seeing such. We get all sorts from very dark red balls that are hard to see for the batter and fielders, to balls that the leather scuffs after the first over and misshape.

I've used Duke and found them to be a decent, if not the best cricket ball that we've played with in league cricket. Durable and of a good quality.

These are the only two balls that we have had supplied for our Saturday league cricket, so that is the recommendation that I can give. I could go on but I won't.

the oxbridge tiflex grade 1 ball you mention is an international / county / minor county ball. according to the website it more then passes the requirements of a international ball with ease. I'm impressed by this. yet to see it in hand ..

as for the dukes, which duke was it exactly, they have lots of different model names etc... and there is a big price difference between the best ball i.e test ball (�70) and their second best the duke international (�25), (which i now have and it looks almost the same as the readers sovereign special but a fraction the seam is a bit broader and a fraction more firmer if at all) the test is when you play 50+ overs with it. which iv done with the rss but not with the dukes Int.

the dukes don't have any ball between the �70 test ball and the �25 dukes international ball.

Cricketfan99 · « **Reply #46 on:** March 11, 2016, 01:38:54 AM »

Quote from: tejasapatel on March 11, 2016, 12:53:11 AM

You are better off considering CA Super Test as its a better ball than both SF Test and SG test. Do not go for anything like CA test star as its not great.

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hi thanks for a new and different response.

this is interesting. i used ca balls maybe 20 years ago, perhaps the ca gold or something... they swung too much.... some said they were hard. never used ca again.

what makes you say they are better then sg test as the sg are used in test matches and are approved by ici... where or what standard do the ca test can be used to is is simply because there made in pakistan, they don't have a good / well known rep as the dukes etc...

tejasapatel · « **Reply #47 on:** March 11, 2016, 01:44:56 AM »

Last season we used CA super test for some of our 40 over games and T20 games and they last through them nicely. They do swing more than other balls but are not hard at all and don't damage the bat like at cheaper CA or other unbranded Pakistan made balls.

Here is a link to a blog where Jason from cricket store online did some reviews on them. Links to part 1 and 2 of the three blog series is at the bottom of the article.

http://cricketgearreviews.com/cricket-balls-whats-inside-part-3/

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Cricketfan99 · « **Reply #48 on:** March 12, 2016, 02:16:05 AM »

Quote from: tejasapatel on March 11, 2016, 01:44:56 AM

Last season we used CA super test for some of our 40 over games and T20 games and they last through them nicely. They do swing more than other balls but are not hard at all and don't damage the bat like at cheaper CA or other unbranded Pakistan made balls.

Here is a link to a blog where Jason from cricket store online did some reviews on them. Links to part 1 and 2 of the three blog series is at the bottom of the article.

http://cricketgearreviews.com/cricket-balls-whats-inside-part-3/

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for some reason i don't trust ca balls, even if they say super test on them. maybe because they are too cheap... or they have a pak name on them... (only because they are not used in tests). i hope the problem is in my perception and nothing else. i seem to prefer only the ones used in test matches or county games or have been used in them or are approved by ici for them or were... like tiflex they are not used in international or county circuit but seem to be just as good as any other premium pro ball. i just seem to have a bias here?? or is it my ignorance that iv not tried them.

Cricketfan99 · « **Reply #49 on:** March 12, 2016, 04:07:12 PM »

Quote from: Cover_Drive on March 04, 2016, 04:41:41 AM

Unfortunately there is no international cricket in Pakistan but domestic T20 has Kookaburra Turf while first class has Grays ball.

I have noticed a difference in SG Test red and white one. Both are harder than Kookaburra Turf, however, I am still amused how SG Test is used for Indian test/first class games. It seems like a harder ball, thinner leather, not very prominent seam and gets very soft after use. SG Test flies off the bat, making it so pingy!

England and West Indies use Dukes while India uses SG Test and rest use Kookaburra Turf.

the indians will always prepare things to their home advantage as most teams. but they will go the extra mile in anything possible. the harder ball will favour their batsman dominated team, and the thinner leather i think may just keep costs down, or if not then again it will favour their hard hitting (home) batsman, who will have a very clear advantage as the only country to use the sg balls.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #50 on:** March 12, 2016, 04:42:33 PM »

Quote from: Kez on March 09, 2016, 12:20:20 AM

Got a Kook turf in white (as its used in LA and ODI in the UK) and a Dukes Special County (the test/ fc balls).

Both very good optkons, the sound they make even when tapping bats is great!

I've always found it strange that people on here don't factor in the ball being used in their endless tapping of bats.

Cricketfan99 · « **Reply #51 on:** March 12, 2016, 05:45:20 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on March 12, 2016, 04:42:33 PM

I've always found it strange that people on here don't factor in the ball being used in their endless tapping of bats.

exactly why, I'm getting the high end balls for high end bats.

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #52 on:** March 12, 2016, 06:48:06 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on March 12, 2016, 04:42:33 PM

I've always found it strange that people on here don't factor in the ball being used in their endless tapping of bats.

I have a special tapping up ball!
It's a 47 over old Duke, chosen because it is still reasonably firm (not a rock, or a sponge) so is a good way to judge responsiveness.
It also makes the nicest sound on ping test videos

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #53 on:** March 12, 2016, 07:28:02 PM »

Quote from: Cricketfan99 on March 12, 2016, 05:45:20 PM

exactly why, I'm getting the high end balls for high end bats.

Because top quality balls make a completely different sound on a good bat to cheap balls.

SteffanLangholz · « **Reply #54 on:** March 13, 2016, 11:55:46 AM »

Did some highcatching drills with the tiflex balls yesterday. Magna, the cheap one, sounds like my cheap sg club, and feels hard. Would worry about the feel of this ball. But one doesn't know till our nets are open. The medium quality, Windsor ball, sounds remarkably like the kookaburra turf of the bat. Doesn't seem hard, actually, think I might have found a proper cheapish ball to net with. But let's see when April starts.

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edge · « **Reply #55 on:** March 14, 2016, 12:19:59 AM »

Quote from: SteffanLangholz on March 13, 2016, 11:55:46 AM

Did some highcatching drills with the tiflex balls yesterday. Magna, the cheap one, sounds like my cheap sg club, and feels hard. Would worry about the feel of this ball. But one doesn't know till our nets are open. The medium quality, Windsor ball, sounds remarkably like the kookaburra turf of the bat. Doesn't seem hard, actually, think I might have found a proper cheapish ball to net with. But let's see when April starts.

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Batch of Windsors I used a couple years ago stayed lovely and hard for ages but barely swung and went dull very quickly, good net ball if you're not bothered about it swinging. Only had one net with Magna after I got some from Vitas but the lacquer seems much better on it, too early to say how hard it'll stay.

SteffanLangholz · « **Reply #56 on:** March 17, 2016, 01:38:14 PM »

Heres an update on the Windsor after 2 hours of bowling. Maybe 20 odd overs. Filthy pitch mind you, and damp. Shape is perfect, seem opened a bit, see picture. Still swinging and seeming.

Cricketfan99 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 18, 2016, 12:54:15 AM »

nice pics, thanks for that.

iv ordered some sg test balls from india along with some sf international balls also. when they will arrive i will do a short review + pics of the balls i have.

they will be

1 )Sg test balls (approved by bcci, for test and first class matches in India)
2 Sf international balls, (not approved by bcci, but still high quality told same as sg for test and FC matches) just lighter in colour

3) Dukes international cricket balls (otherwise also known as dukes crown prince or DUKES ROYAL COUNTY 'A' CRICKET BALL) .
4) Readers sovereign special cricket balls
5) kookaburra first ever pink ball for test matches (two piece, am told same as the test ball but only its made in two piece not four) .
6/7) maybe one or two others also, but they will all be from premier league cricket or above. any more suggestions let me know. thanks

Northern monkey · « **Reply #58 on:** July 07, 2017, 05:16:59 PM »

Just opened up one of our club match balls,(I'm not a fan, so wanted to see why) and it's just solid re constituted rubber with bits of stone, plastic etc!
I've never seen anything like it to be honest.

The balls made up of three parts only
The outer leather?
A plastic cup
And the re constituted rubber

Is this more common these days, or is this just a cheap rip off bat breaker??

jblowe · « **Reply #59 on:** July 07, 2017, 05:43:04 PM »

I have use the whole range of Tiflex balls and found the Blenheim to be the best. It is not on the website, you need to ask Nathan for it. It is the standard match ball in the Cherwell league

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