I have a B3 butterfly that I got as a real bargain. I netted with it for the first time at the weekend - not knocked in, just soft balls at fairly gentle pace (sorry guys). Don't know if mine is typical, but if you like bats that make a deep basso profundo noise when you connect with the ball, a butterfly isn't for you. If you prefer a whipcrack type of noise, you are in business. Noise apart, if you give the ball a good thump it stays thumped. I didn't experience any nasty jarring when I hit the ball. The bat has no scuff sheet but there were very few marks on the face to show that it had been used, so maybe the stains make the the bat a bit harder. I'd previously shown the bat to a guy that I work with who has now retired from cricket but used to play at a decent level. Apparently in his day butterfly bats were the holy grail - this was in the days when bats were revered for longevity as well as performance. Butterfly bats bear close scrutiny, the stain can give an optical illusion of wavy grains, when closer examination reveals that the grains are running straight and true. The bat that I have has the straightest grains through the toe section of any of my bats, so again, I'm expecting it to last well (heresy!). As regards weight I think like any cleft there is variance. Mine is 2-9 and it still looks a pretty big bat. My view? I'd definitely buy one again. If you do buy one and don't like it, it's the sort of bat that will give years of good service in the club kit bag. You've all seen the quality of the bats that B3 make so you can buy with confidence.