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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2016, 01:00:36 PM »

But Rs.45000 for a 7 star means £300...and we could buy a hell4leather and other high quality bats here for that price then why bother buying a CA? lol. Price for a players edition was Rs.26000 last year and this year its 38000...wtf???

7 star is made from low density willow?

I have read great reviews of H4L bats - Warbird has a smaller blade like a CA bat - but I have never used or owned one. Other than that, my CAs perform as well or better than other brands. I reach for my CA as my match bat ahead of Amplus and my Lavers. They simply perform better much early on in their life and with care last as long. I am getting my monies worth with a CA while some of "other high quality bats" are sitting in my closet.
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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2016, 02:17:53 PM »

But Rs.45000 for a 7 star means £300...and we could buy a hell4leather and other high quality bats here for that price then why bother buying a CA? lol. Price for a players edition was Rs.26000 last year and this year its 38000...wtf???

Well, Players Edition got demoted and CA came out with 7 Stars to replace it as a flagship model.
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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2016, 04:15:08 PM »

Well, Players Edition got demoted and CA came out with 7 Stars to replace it as a flagship model.

players edition is still available and its for 38000 and 7 star is 45000...lol I am never buying those at that price.
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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2016, 04:17:01 PM »

players edition is still available and its for 38000 and 7 star is 45000...lol I am never buying those at that price.

Yes, but what CA does is that they keep on having predecessors.

Five or so years ago CA 12000 Plus was top end.
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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2016, 04:20:25 PM »

Yes, but what CA does is that they keep on having predecessors.

Five or so years ago CA 12000 Plus was top end.

You mean the same bat that was sold for 26000 last year is going for 45000 this year for no reason at all? hahaha
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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2016, 04:25:51 PM »

players edition is still available and its for 38000 and 7 star is 45000...lol I am never buying those at that price.

Nobody is forcing you to buy it. 7 Star is USD 450? Standard price for any good bat these days. You can't get performance for free, you have to pay.
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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2016, 04:31:30 PM »

Problem with ca bats is there 1 or 2 bats perform out of 10,  rest are dead rubbers keep knocking them will ping pancake.
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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2016, 04:34:53 PM »

Problem with ca bats is there 1 or 2 bats perform out of 10,  rest are dead rubbers keep knocking them will ping pancake.

That is not true!

All 3 of mine ping like gang busters and also other peoples' that I know of.

I can't say the same of other brands even big names like Laver - got one dud.

The thing I find interesting is that CA gets so much unwarranted bad rep on this forum whereas in the real world, its one of handful of brands that are extremely popular.
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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2016, 04:36:56 PM »

I concur what @InternalTraining said. I have never seen such low percentage of CA bats not performing. Canada's biggest batsman, despite being sponsored by SS where he would get free stuff, he would prefer using CA.
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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2016, 04:43:33 PM »

That is not true!

All 3 of mine ping like gang busters and also other peoples' that I know of.

I can't say the same of other brands even big names like Laver - got one dud.

The thing I find interesting is that CA gets so much unwarranted bad rep on this forum whereas in the real world, its one of handful of brands that are extremely popular.

Performance wise i can't argue with you. They don't always last very long (based on the number of repairs i do on them every year) but perform well before they explode into a cloud of sawdust.

If only they could fit handles properly and actually make bats of full size. Currently we have 7 CA bats in the shop mostly for knocking in, 2 for 'rehandles' even though they were brand new in the plastic when they were handed to me, usual suspects to blame here: polyfilla, poor quality/missing rubber springs, one handle with 5 springs for some bizarre reason, bent/twisted handles etc etc.
All have the fully knocked sticker but are as soft as butter, none are the weight the sticker on the shoulder says they are. They are all smaller in overall size than a SH bat, and all are 105mm or narrower in the blade.

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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2016, 05:00:25 PM »

Performance wise i can't argue with you. They don't always last very long (based on the number of repairs i do on them every year) but perform well before they explode into a cloud of sawdust.

My main match bat is over 3 years old and sees regular action. Knock on wood, it is still going strong. It is a natural product and I don't expect it to last a lifetime. Having said that I have some other big name bats that I will never use, again, because they just don't perform. I don't have time to knock them or wait a year for them to open up.

If only they could fit handles properly and actually make bats of full size. Currently we have 7 CA bats in the shop mostly for knocking in, 2 for 'rehandles' even though they were brand new in the plastic when they were handed to me, usual suspects to blame here: polyfilla, poor quality/missing rubber springs, one handle with 5 springs for some bizarre reason, bent/twisted handles etc etc.

Fair comment. I have not seen any handle issues with any of mine. I have 3, 1 heavily used and 2 new. Lot of my buddies have bought CAs and have not complained about the handles.

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All have the fully knocked sticker but are as soft as butter,

I don't see this as a problem. I have bats that are pressed like table tops and they look lovely sitting in my closet. I mallet mine till I am satisfied. Again, I have also seen some hard pressed CAs.

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none are the weight the sticker on the shoulder says they are.

That's debatable. Could be naked weight or just change in climate. My first two lavers came in at 2 ounce heavier. I have other custom bats that have been over an ounce off in weight despite clear, explicit weight specifications. What should I do about that?

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They are all smaller in overall size than a SH bat, and all are 105mm or narrower in the blade.

This would definitely be a problem for a club cricketer.  :D Seriously, this criticism should be shared with CA by the dealers to fix the issue. What I am seeing now in the market is that smaller blade bats are popular, H4L Warbird, Newbery Uzi/Blitz (?). Perhaps, standard SH bats are not for everyone? Size disparity is a valid point and CA should address it.

Ok, I get it, it is not a "perfect" product but as long as the bat performs, why do I care about others things? Unfortunately, bat makers and enthusiasts on this forum are over looking the realities of the club cricket market, especially in the US. An average club cricketer is a married male with 1.5 kids who just wants to play cricket on the weekend. They don't have a lot of time to knock bats or go to nets. They want bat performance now (or yesterday) and fast; and, is willing to overlook details that would bother the purists. And, I suspect, that is why CA is so popular.
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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2016, 05:22:49 PM »

In my opinion it is this desire for instant performance that has forced some makers to produce overdried/soft bats that perform very well, but for a (usually) short period of time before breaking. Every bat is different of course and it's great that your bat(s) last. I am now 'bodging' for want of a better word, broken CA bats that I knocked in this time last year for people, my experience is CA bats just aren't built to last.

If a bat is so soft that it needs the amount of knocking in you talk about; it kind of defeats the instant performance idea. Just buy a properly pressed bat?

 The difference between a Warbird or a Mana for example and a CA is that the Warbird/Mana is full size overall, and a CA is not.




This is not meant as some sort of witch hunt against CA. I have used a few and they do perform. But everything else about them is bizarre.

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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2016, 05:29:31 PM »

Short/narrow blade is fine, if advertised as such! Ridiculous if done to fool the buyer into thinking they're getting a bigger bat.

CAs do have a big bow though ;)
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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2016, 05:33:34 PM »

Size criticism is fair.

Regarding durability, I have seen some really old ones as well in our league. Again,  my evidence is anecdotal and I don't have a large enough sample set to say that bats last longer than other brands. Just my experience.

I don't have any personal connection with the brand, I just feel the performance simply outweighs the criciticms lobbed at these bats. When it comes to product satisfaction (getting my money's worth), CA, Amplus (M&H). , and Lavers are right up there.
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Re: CA players edition from Lahore? where to buy?
« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2016, 07:07:15 PM »

Size criticism is fair.

Regarding durability, I have seen some really old ones as well in our league. Again,  my evidence is anecdotal and I don't have a large enough sample set to say that bats last longer than other brands. Just my experience.

I don't have any personal connection with the brand, I just feel the performance simply outweighs the criciticms lobbed at these bats. When it comes to product satisfaction (getting my money's worth), CA, Amplus (M&H). , and Lavers are right up there.


Agree with this. I have noted on this forum CA doesn't really get the respect it deserves- this could be because CA bats are much more expensive when sold in England? They are drier than most English or Australian brands. Also generally they are smaller. In my experience I have never seen any CA bat with handle issues- not a single one.

About the debate whether to get a H4L or a CA. I have a Hellfire which I love and my team mate has a Hattori which is also excellent. It took me a whole season to properly open the H4L- it is a quality quality bat!
I used the CA 2 or 3 times with the bowling machine and maybe once in net practice last season. I took it out of the bag this season and it's performance is unreal. It performs better than the Hellfire and the Hattori in my humble opinion without even being used properly. I had a contact at the CA factory so customer service was very easy- I ordered straight from there. For CA 15000 plus it cost me 265 CAD. For that price that bat is monster value for money.

The pros definitely outweigh the cons- I would definitely look into getting one. Right now very interested in the 15000 players edition and the SM profile as well,


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