Topic: Spliceless Bat (Read 16373 times)

Watsontotty · « **Reply #15 on:** January 06, 2010, 07:35:38 PM »

Thought id share a few points on this topic, I'm neither a bat maker or a retailer although I've some experience in both in recent times however no longer involved as such. Ive made this comment before and i will make it again, a lot of people make claims about products and what they have done etc and never provide any proof or details of it. If you have not released products on to the market successfully then i feel it would be better to do so before making claims.

People are quick to try and prove other people's products don't work or point to things like providing proof of testing performances and the criteria for this and the criteria for that. At the end of the day its the consumer who will decide if a product works or not and not the manufacturer ? if a product does not work them it wont be around for long so lets see how long these companies are around and their products and lets see the evidence of the others making bold statements about products and see how long they are around or if they ever materialise.

procricket · « **Reply #16 on:** January 06, 2010, 07:42:32 PM »

Mike as your a regular customer at the place i go for bats at i sure you have seen last season a spliceless bat i nearly got it from him but �200 was a tad steep for me even though it was a gun

Talisman · « **Reply #17 on:** January 06, 2010, 07:46:52 PM »

Am I? If it is who I think you are referring to I'm not, we fell out!!!!!

Tom · « **Reply #18 on:** January 06, 2010, 07:48:19 PM »

I would quantify success as being where we are now, which other brand had such brand awareness and was stocked in as many retailers as Mongoose has only 7 months down the line?

We haven't needed to credit the Newbery Uzi as the MMi3 is nothing like it in looks, shape or performance. The CoR3 though is very similar to the Uzi and we don't deny that or shy away from it. If anyone had launched a bat previously with 30% shorter blade I'm sure we'd have credited it also and the media would have also picked up on it with our very high profile launch.

SillyShilly · « **Reply #19 on:** January 06, 2010, 07:54:21 PM »

Tom, purely out of curiousity, which retailers have stocked your bats - not trying to make any digs or inflammatory comments, but the only place i have seen one on sale is at the Lords cricket shop

cd0070 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 06, 2010, 07:55:03 PM »

product is only as good as its marketing, not just with cricket bats but in every industry.. Hero Honda and Britannia don't make bats but i'm sure there are tons of people who think they have the best bats. That could mean that the consumer isn't as educated but the average consumer doesn't have the time nor the money to research a company's claim about it's product.. most consumers take their word and move on..

can you tell me which laundry detergent cleans the best?? Most people would answer the latest and greatest commercial they have recently seen..

Tom · « **Reply #21 on:** January 06, 2010, 07:56:09 PM »

Owzat, Fordham, VKS, Morrant, V Sports

Plus about 50-60 other stores around the country.

Talisman · « **Reply #22 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:01:34 PM »

You have learnt well young Tom, answering the question you would have preferred to have been asked rather than the one that was asked, not standing as an MP are you?

The basis of the patent is that the MMi3 is the first and only elongated handle plus truncated blade combination bat. I disagree, as you do in your above comment that the CoR3 is the same as the Uzi and the CoR3 is a version of the MMi3. If you go on your website and look at the patent applications then you can copy the application number and then paste it in google, this will then put you on the site where you can spend hours reading the repetitive text wherein lie the claims.

Tom · « **Reply #23 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:14:30 PM »

Neither of us have a clue about patents Mike so I'm not going to go too far into it, the patent isn't the major bit of the IP making up the MMi3 though. I believe the design registration is. If what you're saying about the patent is correct though it's strange that that has been said, as Newbery and even Hunts County have been doing shorter blades for years.

As for the question I was supposed to answer and haven't, which one was that? I see 2 question marks in your previous post which I'll answer now anyway.

The former was about quantifying success, now obviously you want me to publish sales which I'm not going to do.

The latter was about visiting your box of tricks, which I'm not going to do in the near future.

Jamieh · « **Reply #24 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:21:32 PM »

Am I wrong in thinking Mongoose and Hunts are partners? I certainly remember an article along thoe lines a while back?

FattusCattus · « **Reply #25 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:22:25 PM »

So I'm confused are the bats spliceless or not?

Are they spliceless as claimed, or is the splice hidden as claimed?

Can someone give it to me in plain English?

Tom · « **Reply #26 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:25:21 PM »

The splice is in the handle, so there is no visible splice in the blade.

Jamieh · « **Reply #27 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:26:46 PM »

I think they say "spliceless blade" on the website which is fair enough as the splice is in the handle section of the bat.

Talisman · « **Reply #28 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:36:49 PM »

It is a bog standard bat with the shoulders shaved off. The splice is the method of joining handle and blade. I felt most let down when I peeled back the grip....

Tom, I'm only messing with you, I hope you know that, you take the whole Mongoose thing too seriously, I don't.

FattusCattus · « **Reply #29 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:40:11 PM »

Quote from: Talisman on January 06, 2010, 08:36:49 PM

It is a bog standard bat with the shoulders shaved off. The splice is the method of joining handle and blade. I felt most let down when I peeled back the grip....

Tom, I'm only messing with you, I hope you know that, you take the whole Mongoose thing too seriously, I don't.

Stop baiting the saintly Tom and go and warm up that instamatic that you claim takes pictures.

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