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[alexhilly1492]

Great days test cricket, enthralling, tense and good fun! Shame about the result but that was more poor batting than good bowling other Than one spel of Wahab and yasir again England should have never lost that's game! Poor batting costing England again

[Wills]

What does Moeen Ali have to do to get dropped?

[Churchy1989]

What does Moeen Ali have to do to get dropped?

He must be I'm contention to be dropped. Getting sweet FA batting at 8!

[ElPerro]

So what would people's 11 for the next test be then?

Here's mine:


Cook
Hales
Root
Vince
Ballance
Bairstow
Stokes
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

[ppccopener]

What does Moeen Ali have to do to get dropped?

He has done a very good job for us in test matches not so long ago.it doesn't look like he will trouble the Pakistan batsmen bowling wise,he's an average spinner and they are superb players of spin.
The question really is the same one posed on the forum a month ago. If he is number 8 and the only spinner is he the best one available to take wickets?
England don't exactly have a fully stocked cupboard and its Bangladesh and India this winter.

If I was a selector and we need a spinner for old Trafford I would play rashid as an attacking spinner.
Ansari the left armer might also be close to selection.both rashid and ansari are quality batsmen.

[smilley792]

Rashid with the bat vs shah in uae(about 30" balls wasn't it)

Vs

Ali with the bat vs shah today.

Hmmmm

[GoodLeave]

So what would people's 11 for the next test be then?

Here's mine:


Cook
Hales
Root
Vince
Ballance
Bairstow
Stokes
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

Yup.

[Sivlar13]

I would love to see Rashid back in this side. That order looks good to me.

[petehosk]

Looks as though Jimmy and Stokes are back bowling and are likely to be fit enough for the 2nd Test.
Therefore they should be cert to replace Ball and Finn.
But as others are saying, Ali looks woefully ineffective against the Pakistan batting.
Although I still think that the selectors will leave Ali in the starting XI for the next Test?

But I do feel that we need to be looking at the likes of Ansari/Rashid as possible frontline spinners.

[steelcouch]

The only thing Ansari has done to justify an England cap is go to Cambridge in my opinion.

[Felix Tito]

I think we need at least three spin options in the squad for Old Trafford. Obviously the woefully inadequate Moeen Ali will be one of them. Adil Rashid is next cab of the rank. But I'd like to see Simon Kerrigan in the mix. His first class record is excellent and OT is his home ground. Factor in slow left arm spin offers Cook the option to dry up an end whereas Rashid(probably more a wicket taking threat) is likely to leak more runs.

I'd also drop James Vince, looking pretty isn't necessary to have a good Test career. He seems out of his depth.

My side:
Cook(c)
Hales
Root
Bairstow(w/k)
Ballance
Stokes
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson
Kerrigan

Four seam options. A leg spinner and a left arm spinner

[petehosk]

Has England got some kind of "spinners academy" at all?

[springbok45]

Isn't Stokes not being considered for the next test as he's been released to durham for the full match against Lancs where as Jimmy is only there for the first two?

[csnew]

Hearing the story behind why Anderson wasn't selected is a farce! Bowler, captain and coach all wanted him to play yet selectors thought he wasn't ready!

[rickjames]

The only thing Ansari has done to justify an England cap is go to Cambridge in my opinion.

I think that's rather harsh, when he was selected last year for the UAE tour he was having a blinder of a season. Still think with some work that he could play for England in test format...