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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #495 on: July 25, 2016, 04:29:49 PM »

Am I the only one in love with Amir's WS bat?
warsop's are great, if Ravi Bops had continued using them and not messed with bat karma he might have 75 caps by now.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #496 on: August 02, 2016, 11:02:30 AM »

Cook confirmed. Finny steve to start. Ball and Rashid sent ball to counties.


Probably a day or two late for counties needing them in the on day cup. Oh well.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #497 on: August 02, 2016, 11:12:31 AM »

that's a bit of a surprise, Finn looked well out of sorts in the first game, Ball bowled really well.

Finn needs to run in and bowl quick even if it's for 5 overs at a time.

Pakistan coach says they now have plans for Cook and Root and the rest of the England batting is weak(he's not wrong)

What plans have they got I wonder... :)
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #498 on: August 02, 2016, 11:25:13 AM »

Finn did alright there last year, remember? Haha.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #499 on: August 02, 2016, 11:33:08 AM »

Your right Finn  is at his best when he bowls in short sharp bursts as fast as he can and bangs it in on a good length get the batsman hopping around
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #500 on: August 02, 2016, 11:35:45 AM »

Finn did alright there last year, remember? Haha.
he has pace for sure, his record is actually really really goods if you like stats. and we don't have many guys capable of hitting 90 mph.....

I was at Lords(might have mentioned that before  :)) and he was clutching his knee,flexing his knee and was well down on pace, Ball was much quicker....

But he's an asset for sure....personally, and I could be totally wide of the mark here, but his problems seem to be in the head more than anything. I don't think he is the most confident cricketer and maybe lacks confidence.

These guys are still humans like the rest of us.....personality you can't change whether you are a club player or a pro....

that's what I think anyway  :)

anyone who has read Robin Smith's book (quest for number 1) would have read about a cricketer wracked with self doubt and confidence issues. I watched and admired RS growing up and i'd never of thought that.

You tube some highlights of Smith V Merv Hughes still makes me smile
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #501 on: August 02, 2016, 02:04:43 PM »

Anyone elsa at Edgbaston on Friday this week for Day 3
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #502 on: August 02, 2016, 02:14:39 PM »

Day 1 for me, checking yesterday and ticket sales look rather poor
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #503 on: August 02, 2016, 02:15:47 PM »

Anyone elsa at Edgbaston on Friday this week for Day 3

Yes sir. Hoping for good weather.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #504 on: August 02, 2016, 02:58:27 PM »

Normally I'd pick Finn everyday of the week(has the potential to be the best bowler of his generation) but in this rare I'd have gone for Ball. He was impressive on debut.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #505 on: August 02, 2016, 03:01:00 PM »

Might go weather for Birmingham  looking excellent from Friday
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #506 on: August 02, 2016, 03:03:13 PM »

Not sure I agree with Finn playing time away again might help him, says that I would have gone for wood over ball too! Been bowling quick for Durham and has had a lions run out recently
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #507 on: August 02, 2016, 03:10:00 PM »

Finns problems started when coaches tred to change his action he's not been as prolific a wicket taker since.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #508 on: August 02, 2016, 03:17:52 PM »

Finns problems started when coaches tred to change his action he's not been as prolific a wicket taker since.

I think England tried to stop him clipping the stumps with his knee after Greame Smith started crying after he got out once. Rather than accepting it as one of those things bowlers do( pretty sure Neil Foster of Essex used to whack the stumps a lot?) they shortened Finn's run and then the problems started.

It all melted down in Australia and he had to go home. Away from England Richard Johnson (ex Middlesex) fixed things up.So we got him to thank for getting Finn back on the right right,and big Gus Fraser.

@Seniorplayer  do you remember Bob Willis having a problem with no balling, like an epidemic of it. I'm too young to remember  :) :)
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #509 on: August 02, 2016, 03:49:52 PM »

Yes Carlo it was because Finn kept knocking the stumps over in his run upand batsman wanted it called no ball when he got them out.
Your right about Willis used to see him do it at edgebaston bowlers who bowl wicket to wicket you miss I hit types need to get as close as they can to the stumps prior to releasing the ball.
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